MAMIL goes full-carbon

[Globalti]

I dont understand the bollox with frame/chassis rigidity etc. With bicycles I find they handle all the same. How can a road bike absorb bumps more effectively than another? They all use solid frames. With suspension and shock absorbers I can understand if theres noticeable difference. Im sure half the motoring and cycling reviews are just made up.

Read my first post here, I didn't imagine the difference: http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/six-years-of-carbon-frame-evolution-quite-a-difference.131430/

 

[ayceejay]

I found the transition interesting, maybe difficult but now that it is all sorted out I like my carbon framed bike.
The sound of rain falling on the top tube freaked me out at first as did the whistling of brake cables vibrating against the frame, the worry that I was going to break it or over tighten a bolt - all of this passed.
Incidentally anyone who thinks all bikes are the same is talking out of their hat, many moons ago I swapped a Holdsworth for a Pinarello and the Pinarello for a Daccordi with Super Record: chalk or Gorgonzola anyone.

 

[Boris Bajic]

I found the transition interesting, maybe difficult but now that it is all sorted out I like my carbon framed bike.
The sound of rain falling on the top tube freaked me out at first as did the whistling of brake cables vibrating against the frame, the worry that I was going to break it or over tighten a bolt - all of this passed.
Incidentally anyone who thinks all bikes are the same is talking out of their hat, many moons ago I swapped a Holdsworth for a Pinarello and the Pinarello for a Daccordi with Super Record: chalk or Gorgonzola anyone.

I do not think the above comparison (in bold) is helpful. Neither has much at all in common with the other. Any comparison would be unhelpful and misleading.

One might as well compare water with a duck's back or a bear with His Holiness the Pope.

If you cannot make helpful and constructive comments....

Thank you.

Carry on.

 

[ayceejay]

Here's one: an often used expression to describe difference is like 'chalk and cheese', Daccordi and Pinarello are Italian bikes - Gorganzola is an Italian cheese.
Other than that your comment makes no sense since what the three items (Holdsworth - Pinarello - Daccordi) have in common is that they are all bikes which I found to be totally different in most other aspects unlike the poster I quoted who can see no difference between ANY bike and another.
Up your reading comprehension and go easy on the snark - OK?

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

I waiting for the OAMIL's to go carbon.

I think that's what I just did in an attempt to slow down the rate at which age is slowing me down!

 

[MrGrumpy]

Steel/Carbon whatever does it really matter ? but on a serious point the below link is to a Steel framed race bike, reading the interview it would seem they have taken steel to its limits.

http://road.cc/content/news/74227-team-madison-genesis’-steel-genesis-volare

 

[Mr Haematocrit]

Can be fixed, can take bumps better, can be loaded as it isn't only made to be strong in certain directions. Doesn't cost a small fortune. Don't have to use far east cheap labour.

Carbon can be fixed, as can Aluminium, as can Steel.
Carbon has the flexibility to be able to adjust the material thickness and properties with different resins as such can be tailored to have the desired properties at any point in the product unlike steel, and for its respective weight carbon fibre far exceeds the strength of steel.
The largest producer of steel is Luxembourg and the next largest producers from number 2 through to number 11 are far eastern companies. In fact over 50% of the worlds steel producing companies are based in the far east.... and I expect using their labour to manufacture it.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_steel_producers

 

[Andrew_Culture]

Congrats Jon, I look forward to seeing your new stead.

We should arrange a Carbon ride and invite along Mr @Andrew_Culture so it will speed up his move to a plastic bike, with him seeing how fast, with how little effort, we are able to go, compared to him ;-)

Can plastic bikes be claimed as expenses on ones tax return?

 

[Andrew_Culture]

It's a lovely looking bike Jon!

I daren't get involved in the frame material debate, but having just built my first 531 steel framed singlespeed and am somewhat alarmed at how much it flexes!

 

[Globalti]

Even within metals... I've ridden two tandems in my life, the first was aluminium with fat tubes and gave a dull but secure-feeling and enjoyable ride. The second was older and made from skinny steel tubes.... my God it was frightening; it felt like the two of us were sitting on top of a metal farm gate, so much did it flex. We couldn't wait to get off it.

 

[Jon George]

enjoy it

I have!

 

[Jon George]

Blimey! To reiterate and to clarify to those who may have misconstrued my original post: I have just purchased a new bike. I think it's fantastic. It happens to be carbon. I am not expressing an opinion on its relative merits to bikes made from different materials, I am making a subjective observation based on previous experience and telling everyone here that I am a happy man. Any contribution to this unexpected debate by myself is beyond my pay grade ...

 

[carolonabike]

Congrats on the new bike, it looks lovely. I think it's horses for courses. I have an aluminium Trek I use for commuting, a Specialised Tricross (also aluminium) for touring and a carbon fibre Cube for weekends, sportives and racing. I like the other two but I adore my carbon fibre Cube.

 

[Rob3rt]

I have a carbon fibre bike. I also have an aluminium (or was it aluminum, cant remember) road bike. The CF bike is better because it comes with better components and cost a lot more. I dont understand the bollox with frame/chassis rigidity etc. With bicycles I find they handle all the same. How can a road bike absorb bumps more effectively than another? They all use solid frames. With suspension and shock absorbers I can understand if theres noticeable difference. Im sure half the motoring and cycling reviews are just made up. I mean how do you go about finding the limits of tyre grip without losing control, possibly crashing?

Your ignorance astounds!

 

[goody]

Carbon Fibre's the Future! I know there are some folks out there that would walk around the F1 pitlane saying
"Nah, you don't want to do it like that, nice bit of Ash that's what you want to make the chassis out of get rid of all this CarboFibber rubbish!"
But they're wrong Oh yes so wrong!
Any way wheres the pics?