OK. I know an excellent sports therapist in Liverpool who is a cyclist and an occasional soigneur for the Wiggins team. He also works with the British climbing team. PM me if you need his details.Its a new one on me unfortunately! I'm gonna leave it a few days and see how it goes. Agony inside knee and along front of shin but only in certain positions. Full range of movement and no seizing up or swelling. It's only stairs and cycling that leave me unable to talk in anything other than expletives!