Maybe we just weren't elitist enough for the ride?

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smutchin

Cat 6 Racer
Location
The Red Enclave
Fark me you are making me sound like Victor Meldew,

Er... no, you’re making yourself sound like Victor Meldrew.

maybe its because as a business owner I get taxed to breathe and get barely anything back in return.

As you’ve said yourself several times, no one has to pay to cycle on public roads. Setting up stalls etc is a different matter.
 

Andrew_P

In between here and there
Er... no, you’re making yourself sound like Victor Meldrew.



As you’ve said yourself several times, no one has to pay to cycle on public roads. Setting up stalls etc is a different matter.
But running a business to charge people to ride on public roads is exactly like setting up a stall IMO. So are you not going to answer me as an event organiser do you have to pay anything to organise your event?
 

smutchin

Cat 6 Racer
Location
The Red Enclave
I really had you down as being a bit more intelligent than that.

You also thought people paid to ride on public roads and you were wrong about that too.
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
Can @YukonBoy (or another contributor) provide a link to the accounts of a sportive showing how little or much organisers are 'making', whether as a profit for the commercial organising company or the charity (and I acknowledge there's sometimes overlap)?
All of the specialist sportive organisers are still too small to have to publish full accounts, aren't they? But it looks like some of the biggest could be making £600kpa. The organisers who do it alongside other businesses don't seem to split it out from other event revenue, so it's hard to tell.

It's a bit of an arbitrary accounting decision whether the event profit appears as company profit or gets spent as staff pay or bonuses too, anyway.
 

Andrew_P

In between here and there
You also thought people paid to ride on public roads and you were wrong about that too.
I won't lower myself to the use of an emoji, you just carry ignoring my salient questions and keep kidding yourself about charging people to ride on public infrastructure. The next "Sportive" you organise send me a PM and I will pop along and ride it for free, I could test out how well you police your Flapjack & Hi5 stops too.
 

srw

It's a bit more complicated than that...
I won't lower myself to the use of an emoji, you just carry ignoring my salient questions and keep kidding yourself about charging people to ride on public infrastructure. The next "Sportive" you organise send me a PM and I will pop along and ride it for free, I could test out how well you police your Flapjack & Hi5 stops too.
Keep an eye on the calendar, although if you're expecting Hi5s en route you might be disappointed.
 

Andrew_P

In between here and there
Keep an eye on the calendar, although if you're expecting Hi5s en route you might be disappointed.
209km bugger that. That is nothing like what I have been going on about and @smutchin knows it (although still public roads) inserts relevant emoji. I had never "paid" it much thought until someone pulled me up on a throw away comment in this thread. The more I thought about it the more it developed! Also I will say the Evans rides that pass me near work from their Gatwick HQ are pretty badly marshalled if at all and run on some roads were I am not that keen as a solo cyclist and will detour (adding miles) to avoid most of the time let alone a large unorganised group that is leaving half spaces in a very long single file. Makes my toes curl every time I see them with the obligatory cars behind and attempting overtakes that are impossible. IMO there is a much safer, easier route back they have ignored my emailed suggestion though..
 
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