deptfordmarmoset
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Thanks. Well, the good news appears to be that the UCI has the technology to detect this generation of motor.
Mechanical doping
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winjim
Smash the cistern
So the teams pretty lax about what equipment they allow their riders to bring to the race? If it's a team sport then it simply cannot be 100% her. I think in all team sports the team should be sanctioned for individual transgressions. It might make people consider their actions a bit more carefully if they know they'll incur the wrath of their team mates / country.
ETA: copy/paste from Marmion's link on the other thread. Rider and team both liable, bike just needs to be present, not even ridden.
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User169
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Sporza..
http://sporza.be/cm/sporza/wielrennen/veldrijden/1.2560226
"People laughed at the idea of mechanical doping, but now it's a reality"
andrew_s
Legendary Member
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The clinic has pointed to her time up the hill at the Koppenbergcross in November as being 5% faster than any of the pros (Cant, Wyman etc), and are wondering if it was a targeted check.
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Koppenberg clip (reminscent of Cancellara riding away on the Muur in 2010)
View: https://youtu.be/kv3CiyrRTMg
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Keith Oates
Janner
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- Penarth, Wales
Another problem and disgrace to our sport but the single biggest loser is her.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
fossyant
Ride It Like You Stole It!
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- South Manchester
A big magnet ! If it sticks to your carbon seat tube, something is a miss, or you've bought a dodgy Chinese frame ?
Flying_Monkey
Recyclist
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- Odawa
Come on, are you seriously trying to blame the earlier speculation for riders (or teams) trying mechanical doping? On this logic, if we all just shut up about cheating, no-one would do it. That is ridiculous.
The earlier 'speculation' was based in the knowledge of the technical possibility of mechanical doping. And you can bet that within the sport, that knowledge was circulating a long time before it was public knowledge, in the same way that new drugs and procedures will be whispered about amongst riders and teams (which in turn are supplied by shadow networks of dubious laboratories). In this case, there will undoubtedly already be sources of assistance in mechanical doping, the only question is how many riders have used this. I suspect the numbers are small, but there will have almost certainly been races won because of it. Unlike drugs, however, there will be no trace that can be re-analysed later, unless someone happens to have a 'smoking gun' of a video / audio record of sufficient quality somewhere, and as we know from the Cancellara videos, video records are far from convincing, let alone 'proof', even when they are suggestive.
The last leap is yours not mine. All I was saying is that the realization of what's possible into some kind of reality is borne out of knowing you might be able to do it and like you say, the general public are probably the last to know of the possible so there's no real point in us keeping schtum.
I still don't find the Cancellera links etc.. convincing but the UCI have clearly taken the view, in light of cycling's history, that they should prepare for the possibility that someone might try it.
I still find myself surprised that someone has, though there's still no proof that it was actually used.
Smokin Joe
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This should definitely result in a lifetime ban for the rider, and for any of the team officials that are found to be complicit. While you can accept that once in a while an athlete may have taken a banned substance in error there is no possible defence against having an electric motor fitted to the bike.
steveindenmark
Legendary Member
But if they were not in a group when they used it.
I cannot imagine the battery life being long.
With regards to Femke Dreissche. She is saying the bike wasn't hers. You could put my bikes along with a lot of identical bikes and I would quickly know it wasn't mine. By the feel, by little things on the bike.
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PhilDawson8270
Veteran
If you're already competitive naturally with the top 5, the battery won't need to last long to give you the tiny edge required to get you to the front.
Citius
Guest
She is saying the bike belonged to a training partner and was in her pit area at the time.
Bike changes are a normal feature, riders get strung out quickly and ride alone or in small groups much of the time, there are some short, but very tough, uphill sections where a little extra power can make a big difference.
Dogtrousers
Kilometre nibbler
I posted this elsewhere a while ago, but people may find it interesting. A guy road-testing a concealed, or at least non-obvious, leccy motor up box hill
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/8c89e112-...cles_share/share_link_article_email/editorial
I'm not suggesting the bike in this incident was like that (with a whacking great bidon battery) but it's an example of the kind of thing that's on the market.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/8c89e112-...cles_share/share_link_article_email/editorial
I'm not suggesting the bike in this incident was like that (with a whacking great bidon battery) but it's an example of the kind of thing that's on the market.
