Mindless people

[jonny jeez]

Cameras were a consideration after the car was damaged, but it's not something I'm keen on. Just feeds the paranoia really.
I know because I heard them that they went past, and didn't come back.
There are a couple of young couples who get load and drunk most weekends, it was probably them. I'll continue to glare at them as we pass. That should do it.

Please don't.

You have no proof it was them, ir even someone on the estate, this is how long-standing disputes start. They take years to fix...if ever...and often begin with assumption.

If you want to put the matter to bed then dont get dummy cameras, don't tell the neighbours you have installed cctv...just actually install it (£9.99 web cam) and covertly gather evidence. Then leave that will the police to deal with.

Personally though I would either forget about it or find out who they are and go talk to them myself...not to confront them but to make them a friend, invite them to a barbeque or better still ask them for their help with something then buy them a pint to say thanks.

Making them feel that you are a friend is a far more efficient way to stop any dispute.

Think about the goal.

 

[jonny jeez]

You can't judge people by where they live, but as you know, some people have an inexplicable need to pigeonhole things.

I know that we like to think that this is true ...but it isn't.

Your insurance company, local police force, ambulance service,retailers, schools and even council all judge you because of where you live.

Attractive or not, its a reasonable indicator of a persons position in life (however temporary).

Just look at all those luvvies in Primrose hill!

 

[ufkacbln]

It'll be personal. You'll have sold someone a Halfords special and they've tracked you down.

.... or a Manager from Halfords who is now struggling?

 

[jonny jeez]

Not knocking Sandra, its her choice, but this is the reason I don't live on an estate.

There are also huge benefits from living in an estate, especially if that estate is full of decent people (and perhaps isn't too big) Mrs Jeez wont live out in the sticks, she is fearful that it'll make us unsociable, intolerant and out of touch.

We both value the ability to drop next door for a glass of wine, cup of sugar or some tool or other. I go on holiday every year with my neighbour, he's a great guy and has introduced me to many new interests like skiing and sailing.
I don't live on am estate as such but a cul de sac thing, so its close.

I wouldn't enjoy living on a vast estate though, like those with their own cinemas and supermarket for all of the same reasons about Integration

 

[ufkacbln]

What is the pub like?

A reasonable landlord will try and prevent trouble with the community.

Our local banned a couple of yobs who used to leave a trail of tipped bins and damaged fences

AS tha nearest option is a couple of miles away, they ended up taking taxis and that solved the issues

 

[jonny jeez]

.... or a Manager from Halfords who is now struggling?

Best not to speculate, it'll cause paranoia and just add a level of fear or intimidation to something that was most likely just some kids dicking about.

 

[jonny jeez]

[QUOTE 4773439, member: 9609"]it is certainly wrong to judge individual people by where they live.[/QUOTE]
Wrong?...yes

True?...yes, also

 

[ufkacbln]

Best not to speculate, it'll cause paranoia and just add a level of fear or intimidation to something that was most likely just some kids dicking about.

It was no a serious suggestion

 

[jonny jeez]

I disagree, theres plenty of people living in really nice areas who have never worked or who have drug/alcohol problems etc. They could be supported by a partner or by their parents or be a left a house etc through inheritance.
Also there are plenty of people with really good jobs but for whatever reason usually house costs or a preference for renting, live in not so great areas. Theres loads of nurses and doctors/medical professionals who live in some not great areas but they are near their places of work etc.

I disagree too.

I'm not saying its right....just that its true.

 

[Accy cyclist]

He decided he had enough, so he glued some stanley blades under the rim of one of the pots so the edges were just protruding

I did similar with the Hydrangea in the front garden. For years we were plagued by those who thought it was fine to just walk past,snap a flower off then break it up and then drop it. One day i taped the cut off branches(with the half inch thorns pointing downwards)from a rose plant to the stems of the Hydrangea. One of the culprits walked by and did the usual running the fingers up the stem to snap the flower off. Ouch!!!

 

[twentysix by twentyfive]

I'll continue to glare at them as we pass.

Please don't.

Making them feel that you are a friend is a far more efficient way to stop any dispute.

That's the way

 

[Sandra6]

I glare at everyone, it's just the way my face works.

What is the pub like?

A reasonable landlord will try and prevent trouble with the community.

Our local banned a couple of yobs who used to leave a trail of tipped bins and damaged fences

AS tha nearest option is a couple of miles away, they ended up taking taxis and that solved the issues

The pubs a mile away, in the middle of a different estate. I doubt the neighbours drink there.

 

[Drago]

There are also huge benefits from living in an estate, especially if that estate is full of decent people (and perhaps isn't too big) Mrs Jeez wont live out in the sticks, she is fearful that it'll make us unsociable, intolerant and out of touch.

We both value the ability to drop next door for a glass of wine, cup of sugar or some tool or other. I go on holiday every year with my neighbour, he's a great guy and has introduced me to many new interests like skiing and sailing.
I don't live on am estate as such but a cul de sac thing, so its close.

I wouldn't enjoy living on a vast estate though, like those with their own cinemas and supermarket for all of the same reasons about Integration

There are benefits, but crime levels isn't one of them.

Most council planning offices no longer make developers take the advice of the councils 'designing out crime' officer, because most councils no longer have them. It ised to be mandatory in most L.A. areas until c.2005ish. As a consequence, estate design has reverted somewhat to a time more akin to the early seventies in terms of the problems they're designing in.

Multiple alleyways, giving villains easy unobserved access and egress.

Clever stuff, like making the layout so no ones house directly overlooks anyone else's. Very pretty compared to a uniform Legoland layout, but it deprives residents of natural surveillance opportunities, making it both easier and more reassuring for Fingers the Thief.

Lack of car parking within the boundaries, makes vehicles vulnerable when parked in the road or, even worse, blocks of parking bays away from the houses.

And houses crammed in tightly, maximising cover and concealment for herberts.

And so on...

Of course, you can see your chums and the shops are just around the corner. However, I don't have any chums, and Fortnum and Mason now deliver. I don't live on an estate, and still have neighbours and the esprit de corps of community living.

 

[Dismount]

CCTV is the obvious solution leave it on record should anything happen view the recording. If it is recurring with the same person(s) you can discuss with them, if nothing comes of that then involve the please.

 

[Milzy]

We are a dead end estate, there's no through road. If you come passed my house you are going to yours -or a friends - you're not just passing. This is why it's more annoying.
It's a brand new estate, the houses aren't cheap and , I know this makes me sound snobbish, I thought we'd have nicer people living here who kept their kids, and themselves, in check. It's really disappointing.

Hey, I just moved to a posh estate. People do pass by drunk. Dogs still shoot logs out, kids still kick balls around. It's just life where ppl have bigger houses and smarter cars.