Ministers want 60% of children walking or cycling to school by 2035

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Andy in Germany

Legendary Member
…on a serious note. It’s not going to happen.
#waronmotorists

I remember that "War on motorists." Could we have a similar war on cyclists? Not the one led by the daily mail for the last four decades, but the one where we get loads of new infrastructure, government handouts, large corporate lobbying groups and laws made in our favour.
 

Punkawallah

Veteran
That said, I've just got home after two weeks in York, and having seen the "infrastructure" there I can understand why the 60% goal is far out of reach: if that's a "cycling city" I'd hate to see a car-centric city.

I’d say York is a city with a lot of cyclists rather than a cycling city. AFAIK theres’s a circular cycle path route from the campus to the city and back, but the rest is cycle path markings on some city roads.
 

Drago

Legendary Member
Here in Northampton the carncil are doing some major works for new cycle routes. Its causing traffic mayhem (or motorists mayhem) and theyre bleating quite a lot about it. How dare anything inconvenience them in their car driving a journey they could easily walk or cycle.

I hope the new infrastructure is decent, but their track record so far has been very poor, and the stuff that has been built is indifferently maintained or used as a car park while the council that also enforce parking do bugger all about it. Active travel is supposed to be a priority, but report a problem and it's given a 26 week repair schedule. No, I remain hopeful but the signs are not good, money wanted on something that'll be crap and go downhill from there.
 

Andy in Germany

Legendary Member
I’d say York is a city with a lot of cyclists rather than a cycling city. AFAIK theres’s a circular cycle path route from the campus to the city and back, but the rest is cycle path markings on some city roads.

That's a good description, and I noticed the enthusiasm for cycle infrastructure seemed to diminish the further we got from the University. One "cycleway" would suddenly bounce onto the road, veer off again, come back on, disappear, and reappear a hundred metres later between traffic lanes. An alleged "School Route" half-heartedly took up half a pavement, made bikes stop at all the side roads, then gave up about two kilometers from the school and pitched cyclists into the road. Apparently there's much frustration locally that "The kids just keep riding on the pavement or just ride on the road". Gosh, really? I wonder why.*

The area around the station is being remodeled, with some cycle lanes, but again, they expire after a few hundred metres and cyclists will be spat onto the road at a busy junction.

It's, the sort of design the dutch visit show trainee designers how not to do things.

*Proceeding sentence may contain sarcasm.
 

Thorn Sherpa

Veteran
Location
Doncaster
I think like others have said it all depends on the parents and the kids. I've 4 kids the oldest 16 all the way down to a 4 year old and there's only the 14 year old lad who religiously rides to and from school regardless of the weather. The youngest two a 6 year old and 4 year old are too young to ride but do walk with the mum or me if I'm off work (just under a mile) I think the rule at the youngest two's school is they can ride to and from in Year 6 their last year.
 
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