Moaning about cycling two abreast

[screenman]

You're right. I'm actually starting to think that there should be more of those cameras that can catch unlicensed and uninsured drivers. Then they can invent a camera that can catch morons!

Once they have the pictures who do they send the fine too, the majority of untaxed uninsured are also unregistered, unfortunately.

 

[mjr]

Well it's about 100% more of them that the number of cyclists who have had to pass ANY sort of test.

Zero cyclists have HAD to pass a test. 100% of zero is zero. So you think zero non-cyclist drivers know the Highway Code?

Oh and I tootle along behind tractors without complaint. They grow our food and we'll soon part ways or reach a bigger road.

 

[oldstrath]

Well it's about 100% more of them that the number of cyclists who have had to pass ANY sort of test.

Seen a lot of cyclists doing similar things at junctions too.

Most sensible comment here.
Just wondering why do cyclists need to ride two abreast anyhow ?
Just a question [which many won't like] but if a large tractor got in your way and sat at a quite legal 4mph and and you couldn't get around be honest how many here would simply be happy to follow for maybe a mile or two and not get just a leetle impatient ?
Follow the highway code [oddly it applies to cyclists too]and NOT ride more than two abreast AND ride in singe file on narrow or busy roads.
Sorry but don't cry about the other guy not following the rules if you don't yourself.

Sometimes riding two abreast is entirely sensible on narrow roads, to persuade impatients to wait until it is actually safe to overtake. And yes, I know you think that cyclists should just feck off out of the way of the truly important, but some of us are trying to get to work as well.

 

[boydj]

Well it's about 100% more of them that the number of cyclists who have had to pass ANY sort of test.
Just wondering why do cyclists need to ride two abreast anyhow ?

It was my understanding that adult cyclists have a higher ratio of car ownership than the population at large.

As for two-abreast - there are several reasons to do this for safety and being sociable when riding in even a small group. I don't understand the problem in moving wholly over the centre line to overtake a couple of cyclists, when a proper overtake of a single cyclist still means crossing the centre line.

 

[steveindenmark]

I understand why cyclists ride 2 abreast. But I have experienced them on my local country roads where they refuse to even move in to passing places to let vehicles pass. Unfortunately, some are inconsiderate to other road users.

If cyclists wont share the road, why should they expect motorists to do the same?

 

[benb]

I wonder why some people bother visiting this forum, when they would clearly be happier on Pistonheads!

 

[steveindenmark]

I wonder why some people bother visiting this forum, when they would clearly be happier on Pistonheads!

I dont know if you are referring to me but I ride more than drive. But I wont agree with something just because it relates to a bike, if I think it is wrong.

 

[Glow worm]

Well it's about 100% more of them that the number of cyclists who have had to pass ANY sort of test.

Seen a lot of cyclists doing similar things at junctions too.

Most sensible comment here.
Just wondering why do cyclists need to ride two abreast anyhow ?
Just a question [which many won't like] but if a large tractor got in your way and sat at a quite legal 4mph and and you couldn't get around be honest how many here would simply be happy to follow for maybe a mile or two and not get just a leetle impatient ?
Follow the highway code [oddly it applies to cyclists too]and NOT ride more than two abreast AND ride in singe file on narrow or busy roads.
Sorry but don't cry about the other guy not following the rules if you don't yourself.

What a load of patronising twaddle. Have you ever ridden a bicycle?

 

[snorri]

If cyclists wont share the road, why should they expect motorists to do the same?

I just don't understand this group guilt thing. You appear to wish the punishment for the failings of the few to fall on all cyclists, which sounds very unreasonable to me.
Cyclists will and do share the roads, why should they not expect other road users to do the same?

 

[Milkfloat]

I wonder why some people bother visiting this forum, when they would clearly be happier on Pistonheads!

Some people are on both.

 

[Arrowfoot]

As there are inconsiderate motorists, there are also inconsiderate. cyclists.The issue is not riding 2 abreast. Lots of cyclist know when to yield. Its the stubborn few that genuinely think that riding 2 abreast is a given right and there is nothing else to be done. I have seen tractors that have slowed down and yield when they realise that they can make difference. The argument that riding single file causes more delay than 2 abreast is an overused excuse. I have seen cycling groups break into smaller groups to provide gaps to allow vehicles thru in tight situations.

 

[steveindenmark]

I just don't understand this group guilt thing. You appear to wish the punishment for the failings of the few to fall on all cyclists, which sounds very unreasonable to me.
Cyclists will and do share the roads, why should they not expect other road users to do the same?

I share the road and cycle paths with all sorts. If I have to slow down a bit to let something come by I will. Its never a problem. But you get twonkers in all groups. The only time I ever see it with bikes, and it is only occasionally, is with peletons.

 

[ufkacbln]

MY brother is always on about how cyclists disregard the Highway Code and should be fined and banned for any misdemeanour

Yet when he got done for his SatNav being in the middle of the windscreen it was unfair because despite both the law and the Highway Code stating it was an obstruction and not allowed... that is silly and only been brought in to make it easier to victimise motorists

He is ver selective about which parts of the Highway Code are applicable to motorists, but absolutely unequivocal that there is no such allowance for cyclists



(Note:He was pulled over for speeding during a clamp down and had a go at the Officer for wasting his time.....

They replied by ensuring they did their duty and made sure his car and him were safe...Number plates, tyres, lights, windscreen checks and breathalyser, he was there for about 40 minutes)

 

[ufkacbln]

Surely when riding behind another rider you should be slightly displaced so if they have a sudden stop you are in a position to avoid?

Straight lines are no good to anyone and unsafe

 

[Sara_H]

Happened to me on a time trial last year. I was passing a cyclist in my lane, and there was a car parked in the opposite lane. A 4x4 driver coming the other way had to slow down slightly as a result, and let rip a volley of abuse in my direction. Tit.

Some of my scariest near misses and scariest epidodes of being verbally abused by drivers have been incidents where the driver of an oncoming vehicle has come into my lane (usually to pass parked cars in their lane) and they've been very cross to find it already occupied.