Moaning about cycling two abreast

[glenn forger]

Ive had a driver argue the toss as they scrape past me on the wrong side of the road "You had loads of room!"

Instead of driving at me on the wrong side of the road then argue the toss, just don't drive at me on the wrong side of the road.

 

[ufkacbln]

Ive had a driver argue the toss as they scrape past me on the wrong side of the road "You had loads of room!"

Instead of driving at me on the wrong side of the road then argue the toss, just don't drive at me on the wrong side of the road.

Point out head cam

"Fine, let the Police decide when they see the video, last time it ended up with a caution for the driver "

Then watch them change their tune

 

[benb]

I dont know if you are referring to me but I ride more than drive. But I wont agree with something just because it relates to a bike, if I think it is wrong.

No, it was sidevalve, although I disagree with your collective responsibility comment #38

 

[Accy cyclist]

I cycled down to my local pub last night. No sooner had i got through the door when some drunken gobby git started saying to his mate aloud "I tell you summat else that i hate about cyclists blah blah" and "they get me when they wont let you pass, so i drive straight at 'em". All for my benefit of course. Then he went back to laughing at crude images on his mobile....the dumbfeck!!

 

[al78]

I cycled down to my local pub last night. No sooner had i got through the door when some drunken gobby git started saying to his mate aloud "I tell you summat else that i hate about cyclists blah blah" and "they get me when they wont let you pass, so i drive straight at 'em". All for my benefit of course. Then he went back to laughing at crude images on his mobile....the dumbfeck!!

Pity you didn't punch him hard in the face.

I sometimes think that arrogant, thick gobshites should have significant amounts of pain inflicted on them for being dick heads, preferably enough pain that they can't sleep properly for at least two weeks because it is too painful to lie down. If that happened regularly enough it might result in an evolution away from crappy behaviour towards civilised behaviour, and the quality of life would improve greatly.

 

[benb]

Pity you didn't punch him hard in the face.

I sometimes think that arrogant, thick gobshites should have significant amounts of pain inflicted on them for being dick heads, preferably enough pain that they can't sleep properly for at least two weeks because it is too painful to lie down. If that happened regularly enough it might result in an evolution away from crappy behaviour towards civilised behaviour, and the quality of life would improve greatly.

Punch people and inflict serious pain in order to get more civilised behaviour.
OK then.

 

[User16625]

Pity you didn't punch him hard in the face.

I sometimes think that arrogant, thick gobshites should have significant amounts of pain inflicted on them for being dick heads, preferably enough pain that they can't sleep properly for at least two weeks because it is too painful to lie down. If that happened regularly enough it might result in an evolution away from crappy behaviour towards civilised behaviour, and the quality of life would improve greatly.

This is actually one of the most sensible ideas I have heard in a long time. Unfortunately its one of those great ideas that will never be impemented.

Punch people and inflict serious pain in order to get more civilised behaviour.
OK then.

Yes it is ironic, but sometimes you have to swim through a river of shoot to come out clean.


EDIT: Why was a word I quoted off someone else got through fine, but when I typed it, it got changed by the swear filter?!

 

[glasgowcyclist]

I cycled down to my local pub last night. No sooner had i got through the door when some drunken gobby git started saying to his mate aloud "I tell you summat else that i hate about cyclists blah blah" and "they get me when they wont let you pass, so i drive straight at 'em". All for my benefit of course. Then he went back to laughing at crude images on his mobile....the dumbfeck!!

I bought one of these:



Puts a very confused face on those who'd normally be prone to criticising cyclists.

GC

 

[nickyboy]

This flares up every so often on CC. I really should let it pass me by but I just seem to be unable to resist giving my three penn'oth

1) Riders in Groups. Absolutely safer to ride two abreast than single file (unless there are big gaps, in which case it's not really a group). Public needs educating of this fact

2) Two riders. At a practical level, not safer to ride two abreast. Fine to do so for social reasons but singling out when there is a car up to maintain good relations with other road users. Reasoning is that singling out doesn't appreciably shorten the overtake distance with just two riders, unlike a big group. Furthermore, the argument that drivers "should" pass a singled out rider as wide as they would pass two riders riding two abreast just doesn't hold water. Reality is that no car drivers do this. Whether they should or shouldn't is moot, it's just never going to happen because it doesn't need to happen. You can pass a single cyclist without going as far over the middle line as you would with two abreast riders

 

[confusedcyclist]

People love an 'outside' group to rag on about. It's basic tribal mentality. Unfortunately it is impossible to get away from when holding discussions with ill-informed members of the public. Luckily for us this is just a chat show that joe public will not remember it in a few days time. Now, where that tribal mentality extends to government policy and spending our taxes on infrastructure, we have a serious issue.

Anger towards cyclists is usually because any challenge to motorised dominance is a challenge to an individuals way of life. If you dispute that motorised transportation isn't always the best, you challenge the fundamental belief that the motorist knows best. Any question otherwise suggests that there might be a better way of operating and they are not part of it. It's natural to reject other ways of life in favour of your own. This was an evolutionary advantage response, as changing habits and blaming outside forces helps keep humans on track and less likely to make changes which might compromise their security.

The only way to change someone's view point is to challenge their beliefs with rational arguments and hope they are in the frame of mind to consider real change.

 

[Dogtrousers]

Normally, when you hear people ranting, it's not normally two abreast. Exaggeration takes hold. "They were riding three and four abreast. They were all over the road." (Real scenario: They were riding single file but one of them was a bit further out than the rest).

People love an 'outside' group to rag on about. It's basic tribal mentality.

Don't they just. Bloody motorists.

 

[benb]

At a practical level, not safer to ride two abreast. Fine to do so for social reasons but singling out when there is a car up to maintain good relations with other road users.

Not always. Sometimes holding two abreast is useful to deter a following driver from squeezing through where there isn't room to do so safely.
If you single up in such a place it can invite a close overtake.
Obviously depends on the road.

 

[nickyboy]

Not always. Sometimes holding two abreast is useful to deter a following driver from squeezing through where there isn't room to do so safely.
If you single up in such a place it can invite a close overtake.
Obviously depends on the road.

Agree, there are circumstances such as you describe. Just as there are circumstances where singling out is the right thing to do if there's just two riders. It's all about circumstances, there are no hard and fasts. Never always right to ride two abreast, just as its never always wrong

 

[glenn forger]

Retweet if this pisses you off when you are trying to get home after a long day at work.

I found that on Twitter. People are playing with their phones in the car to take photos of riders making it easier for you at a spot where no sane driver would attempt an overtake in the first place. Holy Jumping Jehosephat, the entitlement is strong with this one.

 

[Accy cyclist]

Punch people and inflict serious pain in order to get more civilised behaviour.
OK then.

I don't think reasonable debate would've worked with the fellow in the pub. Anyway i humiliated him when he passed me to go to the toilet. I held the door open for him making him walk under my arm.