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User6179
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I wish it was true , as far as my experience of cycling in the last 20 years goes is that motorists have far less patience now than ever!
Do you think cycling is really that dangerous? If so, I'd look at your road positioning if I were you and maybe read Cyclecraft. Cycling on the whole is not dangerous but it would obviously be better if drivers were less impatient.
Anyway, the 'danger' is not what any driver talks about. What the really mean is that i'ts inconvenient to them and slows them down.
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User6179
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Why do you choose to ignore what I say or misrepresent what I am saying?
I am talking about certain fast moving dual carriageways !
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glasgowcyclist
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I do understand what you're getting at. I adjust my riding according to the risks (as I see them) I'm likely to encounter so that those risks are reduced; this might be dictated by the road width, single or dual carriageway, sight lines, typical speed of cars, visibility and weather. I accept the increased risk of using certain roads and make myself as prominent as possible, using my road position and very good lights (front and rear). But this risk is present on all roads regardless of width, design, traffic volume or speed limits and the only way to avoid it completely is to stop cycling.
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Risks are present in all roads yes but for example the A80 at Cumbernauld would be suicide to cycle down at 8am IMO , in 20 years I have never seen a bike on that stretch of road.
Seen cranes and broken down cars cause havoc on that stretch of road at rush hour , a bike would have no chance .
You could prove me wrong and cycle it?
glasgowcyclist
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Risks are present in all roads yes but for example the A80 at Cumbernauld would be suicide to cycle down at 8am IMO , in 20 years I have never seen a bike on that stretch of road.
Seen cranes and broken down cars cause havoc on that stretch of road at rush hour , a bike would have no chance .
You could prove me wrong and cycle it?
Well it's a wee bit out of my way. On the other hand, I've cycled the road in question (A82), including the likely section this MP was moaning about, and survived. Without a support car.
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Mad Doug Biker
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Correction, she's only moaning because it doesn't have B*tter Together written in it!
Another vote for the Yes campaign, you see, that's why there is a call for Independence, we want rid of these loopy Westminster MPs.
They are all as bad as each other - Our other Councillor, Jackie Bailie has a reputation for being a media whore, as was her predecessor, John McFall.
There is a local saying that something or someone is 'moving faster than Jackie Ballie towards a photo opportunity'.
Oh ha ha!!
It's not the candidate, it's the red rosette that gets the votes there.
You would only have to put a Monkey with a red rossette on the end of a stick and people would vote for it.
I personally never have voted for them, so I AM trying to do my bit!!
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User6179
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Too far? Ok what about Clydeside Expressway in the rush hour and that's only got a 50mph limit not 70mph like the A80 ?
A82 is a very busy road with quite narrow lanes , I take it that when on it you take primary position in the inside lane ?
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Casuing havoc != dangerRisks are present in all roads yes but for example the A80 at Cumbernauld would be suicide to cycle down at 8am IMO , in 20 years I have never seen a bike on that stretch of road.
Seen cranes and broken down cars cause havoc on that stretch of road at rush hour , a bike would have no chance .
You could prove me wrong and cycle it?
You are falling for the trap of motorists claiming something is dangerous when what they mean is its slowing them down. Are these cranes you speak of being driven into by cars?
martint235
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I think we've done the "Well cycle this bit of road if you dare" thing to death on other threads. I've cycled bits of road deemed so dangerous that the Highways Agency have requested I leave the road at the next junction. I did but only because my companion was extremely tired. I'd still ride that bit of road if it was the fastest way for me to get from A - B.
As someone said, it's not that a road is dangerous, it's that a cyclist is either causing cars to drive slower or, more annoying for a motorist, is causing drivers to re-assess how they drive and to take appropriate action eg move into the next lane to overtake.
As someone said, it's not that a road is dangerous, it's that a cyclist is either causing cars to drive slower or, more annoying for a motorist, is causing drivers to re-assess how they drive and to take appropriate action eg move into the next lane to overtake.
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User6179
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I think even the worst drivers would not run into the back of a bright yellow crane but there was definitely accidents with the concertina effect further back !
The roads been upgraded since , you don't need to accelerate to 70mph in 50 yards on the slip road to enter it now .
I am not falling into any trap , like I said before I know it is mostly all the motorists fault and not the cyclists or the crane driver or the broke down car but it still better to take precautions to minimise some of the dangers like don't let cycles on busy roads with 70mph limits and keep other slow moving vehicles of these roads as well .
Most cyclists would agree that these roads are dangerous , the reason I know this because if they thought they were safe they would be on them but they aint!
glasgowcyclist
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Are you trying to test my mettle?
I cycle on the East Kilbride expressway (50 and 70mph) in rush hour when I need to, will that do?
Yes.
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