My appliances hate me...

[icowden]

The most common issues are to do with drainage and associated pipes to sensors. Thorough clean out the waste in the bottom of the dishwasher. Use a hose pipe to flush the drain of any food debris. Use a small cup to remove any water that won't be removed by the pump when the door is shut.

Regularly run the dishwasher on maximum heat and duration to basically self flush the pipework

 

[icowden]

The most common issues are to do with drainage and associated pipes to sensors. Thorough clean out the waste in the bottom of the dishwasher. Use a hose pipe to flush the drain of any food debris. Use a small cup to remove any water that won't be removed by the pump when the door is shut.

As I said - it drained without a problem. It just won't start again.
Anyway - the new one is coming tomorrow.

 

[Way-Out-West]

As I said - it drained without a problem. It just won't start again.
Anyway - the new one is coming tomorrow.

Your 10 years and scrap isn’t a bad idea as when I think back to the amount of times I’ve carried out corrective surgery on mine (to keep it running 20 years) it's also the last time I’ll fix mine too...probably

 

[icowden]

Your 10 years and scrap isn’t a bad idea as when I think back to the amount of times I’ve carried out corrective surgery on mine (to keep it running 20 years) it's also the last time I’ll fix mine too...probably

it's not a hard and fast rule, I just like to think I've had decent value out of an appliance. If I paid a decent amount (as I did for the washing machine) I expect it to last a decent amount of time. Given that the Hotpoint was quite cheap and probably discounted by Wickes or B&Q, I feel that 10 years service is reasonable. the washing machine will go a bit longer for the expense of simple repairs, and hasn't given me the value I expect for a middling to expensive washing machine!

That said, the kettle is looking past its best and the oven has given me some moments. The Dyson is not what it was...

 

[icowden]

Well, the new dishwasher is in. I was lazy and paid for AO to install and remove the old one. I was impressed though the fitters / deliverers were friendly knowledgeable and skilled. Took them 40 minutes end to end. In my view well worth the cash - it would definitely have taken me a few hours and a lot of swearing.

 

[si_c]

Well, the new dishwasher is in. I was lazy and paid for AO to install and remove the old one. I was impressed though the fitters / deliverers were friendly knowledgeable and skilled. Took them 40 minutes end to end. In my view well worth the cash - it would definitely have taken me a few hours and a lot of swearing.

My experience is that dishwashers are quite easy to install, just pipe the drain and water hose into the existing and plug it in.

That being said if the cost difference isn't much I'd happily pay to avoid having to grub around under the kitchen counters - I'd likely find something that made me pull everything out, remove all the kickboards and give it a proper clean. Can't be having that now.

 

[icowden]

Well, another update. The integrated undercounter Freezer decided to commit harakiri. Refused to freeze anything unless on emergency mode.
Back to AO for a new Freezer. Cocked up on the upsell - thought I was being offered a cheaper freezer same brand. A fridge arrived. Kudos to AO though, they happily processed an order for the freezer and just swapped them over.

I installed this one myself and reminded myself just how much I bloody hate doing it. Didn't help that the freezer was cheap - no useful screw at the front to raise and lower the back legs and the instructions for mounting the door were shoot. Measure (A) distance from door to worktop and (B) distance from top of freezer door to worktop. Then B-A+8. That puts the fitting 12.5cm down the door which is completely wrong. The fitting has to be at er 4.5cm from the top of the door.

Anyway after almost two hours, the job is done. Went to the loo. The toilet is leaking....

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


It's not the cistern - that's dry as a bone. No pipes leaking. Seems to be coming from the back of the toilet - possibly on the join to the waste, but that also seems to be dry. Might have to involve a plumber on this one.

 

[si_c]

Well, another update. The integrated undercounter Freezer decided to commit harakiri. Refused to freeze anything unless on emergency mode.
Back to AO for a new Freezer. Cocked up on the upsell - thought I was being offered a cheaper freezer same brand. A fridge arrived. Kudos to AO though, they happily processed an order for the freezer and just swapped them over.

I installed this one myself and reminded myself just how much I bloody hate doing it. Didn't help that the freezer was cheap - no useful screw at the front to raise and lower the back legs and the instructions for mounting the door were shoot. Measure (A) distance from door to worktop and (B) distance from top of freezer door to worktop. Then B-A+8. That puts the fitting 12.5cm down the door which is completely wrong. The fitting has to be at er 4.5cm from the top of the door.

Anyway after almost two hours, the job is done. Went to the loo. The toilet is leaking....

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


It's not the cistern - that's dry as a bone. No pipes leaking. Seems to be coming from the back of the toilet - possibly on the join to the waste, but that also seems to be dry. Might have to involve a plumber on this one.

Could be condensation. Give everywhere a dry down and then look again in a couple of hours.

 

[icowden]

Could be condensation. Give everywhere a dry down and then look again in a couple of hours.

If the toilet isn't used - no leak. If it is flushed, slow leakage of a small amount of water. Suggests to me that the water in the toilet is coming up to a level where it is above the joint to the waste and is slowly seeping out until the water level has dropped. I did find a lump of silicone sealant that had detached itself. I'm also suspecting that B&Q didn't do the best job when they fitted it and the sealant has been keeping the water in.

 

[si_c]

If the toilet isn't used - no leak. If it is flushed, slow leakage of a small amount of water. Suggests to me that the water in the toilet is coming up to a level where it is above the joint to the waste and is slowly seeping out until the water level has dropped. I did find a lump of silicone sealant that had detached itself. I'm also suspecting that B&Q didn't do the best job when they fitted it and the sealant has been keeping the water in.

Yeah you could well be right. The good news is it's something that should be easily fixable - might even be able to do it yourself with a few youtube videos.

 

[wonderloaf]

Well, another update. The integrated undercounter Freezer decided to commit harakiri. Refused to freeze anything unless on emergency mode.
Back to AO for a new Freezer. Cocked up on the upsell - thought I was being offered a cheaper freezer same brand. A fridge arrived. Kudos to AO though, they happily processed an order for the freezer and just swapped them over.

I installed this one myself and reminded myself just how much I bloody hate doing it. Didn't help that the freezer was cheap - no useful screw at the front to raise and lower the back legs and the instructions for mounting the door were shoot. Measure (A) distance from door to worktop and (B) distance from top of freezer door to worktop. Then B-A+8. That puts the fitting 12.5cm down the door which is completely wrong. The fitting has to be at er 4.5cm from the top of the door.

Anyway after almost two hours, the job is done. Went to the loo. The toilet is leaking....

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


It's not the cistern - that's dry as a bone. No pipes leaking. Seems to be coming from the back of the toilet - possibly on the join to the waste, but that also seems to be dry. Might have to involve a plumber on this one.

Had a similar problem with mine just recently, the culprit was the was the outlet at the top that delivers the water when refilling the cistern, over the years it had got partially blocked by scale, so much so that the water was being redirected over the rear of the cistern and down the wall onto the floor. After soaking in white vinegar and a bit of manual scale removal all's working as it should again.

 

[icowden]

Had a similar problem with mine just recently, the culprit was the was the outlet at the top that delivers the water when refilling the cistern, over the years it had got partially blocked by scale, so much so that the water was being redirected over the rear of the cistern and down the wall onto the floor. After soaking in white vinegar and a bit of manual scale removal all's working as it should again.

In my case the cistern is definitley fine. Dry as a bone. Leakage increases after flushing and eventually stops. Hence it has to be something to do with the bowl rather than the cistern. Luckily we have a second bathroom, so toilet 1 is just out of order. We just have to fight with the children now if we need the loo!

 

[irw]

In my case the cistern is definitley fine. Dry as a bone. Leakage increases after flushing and eventually stops. Hence it has to be something to do with the bowl rather than the cistern. Luckily we have a second bathroom, so toilet 1 is just out of order. We just have to fight with the children now if we need the loo!

Not necessarily. Check very, very carefully the fitting on the bottom of the cistern that delivers clean water to the bowl (ie, the nut that holds the syphon in). The fact you’ve found some silicon somewhere implies someone’s fitted something poorly- silicon has no place on any aspect of a toilet fitting. (With the exception of round the base of the pan where it joins the floor)

Find the rest of the silicon, and you’ll find your problem. Then remove all of it, and redo it all properly with no silicon and the correct arrangements of seals/washers.

 

[icowden]

Find the rest of the silicon, and you’ll find your problem. Then remove all of it, and redo it all properly with no silicon and the correct arrangements of seals/washers.

I suspect it's where the water inlet into the bowl from the cistern is. The bad news is that it is entirely inaccessible except by taking out the toilet bowl.
The water that leaks is clean and clear, so it has to be cistern water, not bowl water. It only happens after a flush.

I have a project for when I get back from my hols <sigh>

 

[irw]

I suspect it's where the water inlet into the bowl from the cistern is. The bad news is that it is entirely inaccessible except by taking out the toilet bowl.
The water that leaks is clean and clear, so it has to be cistern water, not bowl water. It only happens after a flush.

I have a project for when I get back from my hols <sigh>

Can you post any pictures?