new better bike........climbing slower???!!!

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PaulSecteur

No longer a Specialized fanboy
The way I think of gearing is a bit like this...

Imagine that you have a 100 kilo block of metal and its your job to lift it onto a table 1 metre high. If you are strong you might be able to lift it in one try, but you wont be doing much else for a while.

Now suppose that block of metal was cut into 10 equal parts of 10 kilos each. I expect that most people could put a constant effort in and get the 10 blocks up no problem. By the last block they might be breathing heavily, and the next day they might feel they have done some lifting.

How about if it was cut into 20 equal parts of 5 kilos? Each individual block could be done quite quickly and although by the end most people would still be breathing heavily by the end if they did it quickly, once they got their breath back the could do it again and not be sore the next day.

And that is why spinning (For me anyway) seems to be the way to go. If I grind up a hill (lift the 100 kilos in one go) my muscles are done for the rest of the ride, and maybe the day after. If I spin then I can get to the top and recover for 5 mins, then I'm good to go again...and ride the next day.

Low gears break up a large effort into smaller but easier efforts. Generally I ride on the big ring, but as soon as any sort of incline is approached I'm on the granny ring.

I suspect that the reason you are slower overall is because you are putting in such an effort on the hills you are killing you ability to hold what should be your average speed, and any other hills that come up later will just compound the problem.

Give your granny ring a go! If you have a gps and strava you could try both and compare rides.
But don't forget that going from grinding to spinning will take a few rides to get used to it, I know... I'm a converted ex-grinder.
 
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moo

Veteran
Location
North London
Change early, real early. It's better to be spinning at ~120rpm as you start the climb. This will give you a good 30rpm before you'll need to change gear (although you might want to change earlier). It also gets you in the right mindset for spinning.
 

Sittingduck

Legendary Member
Location
Somewhere flat
If you can't get up it in the big ring then just shift down or anticipate more and select the inner ring before the climb kicks in. Why not just use 39-14 or something at the start and shift down on the rear gradually as you get more knackered...
 
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thunderlips76

thunderlips76

climbs for cake
Location
BARNSLEY
yeah i think the problem i have is that i track my performance on strava on a segment basis rather than the whole ride. so even tho i'm slower on some climbs because i'm grinding big gears my avg speed for the rides i'm doing has increased dramatically. guess i'm been over analytical of certain segments.
 

Doyleyburger

Veteran
Location
NCE West Wales
Going by the photo on your other post you don't have 105 you have tiagra shifters tiagra front derailleur and 105 rear derailleur, also the crankset is the fsa gossamer which is a compact 50/34
Don't take this the wrong way but I don't think you have a pro carbon @thunderlips76 , I think you have a team carbon. Please read the post I have copied in this comment. You haven't got a 53/39, you've got a fsa gossamer which is a compact. ....just looked at your photo from your previous thread. Chances are you've got to change your cassette to assist with hill climbing as your bike will have more race orientated cassette. Get an 11-28
 
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winjim

Straddle the line, discord and rhyme
I reckon strava will soon release a new app that tracks what chain ring your using
If you've got an electronic groupset you can save the data as part of a .fit file.
 

Soltydog

Legendary Member
Location
near Hornsea
When I got my Planet X carbon last year i headed out to the wolds to see how it compared on the climbs, I was disappointed to see that up Nunbunholme hill i was over a minute slower than on my old spesh bike :blush: but since then I've knocked a couple of minutes off on my more recent visits. You can't really compare ride for ride, as your condition probably varies day to day along with the weather :okay: Wait until you have tackled the same hill a few times on your new steed & see how times compare then
 

TheJDog

dingo's kidneys
I reckon strava will soon release a new app that tracks what chain ring your using

I think there are a few plugins for chrome that will try to work out the ratio from your cadence and speed. Not sure how well it works. Not really all that sure how much use it would be, either.
 
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