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zak3737

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Quick update : This really is a game changer for me, as the OP, I've now done some regular rides on some uphills locally that 1, I'd never seek out before, ....
or 2, Enjoy riding when I did !
Being able to ride up a lovely wooded valley, that gradually increases from 3/5%, to nearly 14% at its max, and being able to look around and actually enjoy the ride up is a revelation, it really is.
I know the purists will still scoff, and were I 30years younger, I would perhaps too, but now I just want to enjoy my ride, without the lung busting chest heaving grind that quite frankly, at 56, fills me with some trepidation of doing at any time.

Now I go out and ride, without ever thinking of the route I'm doing, and perhaps avoiding those climbs I hate doing, its fab.

I've been extravagant perhaps, getting the Pinarello, I admit, but boy do I love it, and lets be honest, we're only here once.
Bloody Game Changer for me fella's.
 

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Quick update : This really is a game changer for me, as the OP, I've now done some regular rides on some uphills locally that 1, I'd never seek out before, ....
or 2, Enjoy riding when I did !
Being able to ride up a lovely wooded valley, that gradually increases from 3/5%, to nearly 14% at its max, and being able to look around and actually enjoy the ride up is a revelation, it really is.
I know the purists will still scoff, and were I 30years younger, I would perhaps too, but now I just want to enjoy my ride, without the lung busting chest heaving grind that quite frankly, at 56, fills me with some trepidation of doing at any time.

Now I go out and ride, without ever thinking of the route I'm doing, and perhaps avoiding those climbs I hate doing, its fab.

I've been extravagant perhaps, getting the Pinarello, I admit, but boy do I love it, and lets be honest, we're only here once.
Bloody Game Changer for me fella's.
That's brilliant, I hope you have many, many more miles of enjoyment out of it.
 
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Thank you PaulSB, I'm certainly loving it.

@youngoldbloke...... The Orbea is a really good option for many, and the bike rides well as I found, the only reason I didnt go with it was primarily because the Fazua system allows the complete Motot & Battery to be removed, IF & when I want to ride without it, which the Ebikemotion system doesnt.
Whether thats an issue for many, I'm not sure, just swayed me.

The other 2 current contenders using the Fazua system, Cube & Focus, altho were less expensive, not 'that much' less, and certainly didnt look as outstanding as the PInarello, imo.

Incidentally, Wilier are also bringing out their lovely looking Centro1 Hybrid, again with the Ebikemotion system, beautiful bike @ 4500 Euros.
 

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Roadie-style ebikes are the latest ebike growth area.

When I started ebiking about six years ago, nearly all ebikes were hybrid/trekking style - flat bars, fully equipped with mudguards, rack, lights, etc.

The next phase was mountain bikes, usually with a crank drive motor.

Then came drop bar roadie ebikes, the Giant being one of the first to be generally available.

As observed, there are quite a few road ebikes now, with more on the way.
 

davids023

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Quick update : This really is a game changer for me, as the OP, I've now done some regular rides on some uphills locally that 1, I'd never seek out before, ....
or 2, Enjoy riding when I did !
Being able to ride up a lovely wooded valley, that gradually increases from 3/5%, to nearly 14% at its max, and being able to look around and actually enjoy the ride up is a revelation, it really is.
I know the purists will still scoff, and were I 30years younger, I would perhaps too, but now I just want to enjoy my ride, without the lung busting chest heaving grind that quite frankly, at 56, fills me with some trepidation of doing at any time.

Now I go out and ride, without ever thinking of the route I'm doing, and perhaps avoiding those climbs I hate doing, its fab.

I've been extravagant perhaps, getting the Pinarello, I admit, but boy do I love it, and lets be honest, we're only here once.
Bloody Game Changer for me fella's.


After waiting a couple of months for my Gain to come in, I cancelled the order and picked up a Nytro. Really is a game changer, I have had knee and hip surgery and can no longer do hill climbs. Still requires alot of effort with the Nytro compared to my old mtb with the bosch cx motor, so still gives you a really good workout.
On the flats you can easily go over 25km/h where as my old mtb would be so heavy with the cx motor it is impossible to go over 25km/h and maintain the speed.
Can very easily also ride the bike with the motor completely off, and can also remove it completely. I believe fazua are releasing a cover next month if you do intend on riding the bike without the motor/battery.

in terms of street/road legal, the rated continuous power output power is 250w which in Australia anyway, is legal.
 

Jb34

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Some of you may have read my report a couple of months back on the Orbea Gain EBike, and it completely sold me on getting an Ebike going forward.
I'm at an age where I feel like treating myself, more for the Pain elimination of Hills than purely the Financial treat !

Cue much reading and deliberation, comparing and reviewing, and general pondering and debating with myself on the merits and possibilities..
The Orbea was pretty good, but only Alu framed (so far), and running the Ebikemotion system, which has an unremoveable battery in the downtube, and a Rear Hub Drive.
I wasnt totaly sold on that overall, as riding 'without' the battery was never going to be a possibility, so on with thoughts....

Wilier are also soon bringing out a beautiful looking bike too, with same system as above, so again, wasnt convinced.

The Giant Ebikes, whilst having a very powerful batter apparently, are rather 'ugly' imo, and I didnt consider them, the alternatives are just far more indistinguishable as Road Bikes.

So, we move on to the options using the Fazua Evation system....which offers the 3 Power levels, and all neatly comprised into the Downtube, in a removeable Battery & Motor pack.

The Cube Agree Hybrid was quite tempting, Ultegra, with Discs etc, and the 'cheaper' of their 2 options at £4500, in White, was quite a nice looking package, but something about it just didnt quite meet with my idea of what £4500 on a Bike might look like.
(Plus, I wasnt completely sure it offered the same 400watt Max output)

The other stand out was the Pinarello Nytro, a seriously sexy looking option, and with the Prestige that comes with the marque.
However, Dealers cried that demand was huge, and they perhaps wouldnt even be getting DEmo bikes in to try, or fit on etc, even the Bike Rooms in Manchester (Distributors apparently) were stating 2/3mths at best.....
Slane Cycles in Belfast, looked like they had some in stock, but after a call, that proved incorrect, but Andy there did offer to keep me posted as he was 'expecting' one in......

So my interest now focused on the Focus Project Y, and when exactly that may appear for Sale.
Much reading, much googling, and I decided that indeed, this looked the most likely candidate,
& same Power as the Pinarello.

Then, 2 things happened.......

1. Focus launched the Paralane2, the available version of the Project Y, presumably as they'd seen demand to be huge.
However, of the 4 options to be released soon, the most likely for me would have been their Ultegra version, but only in Blue or Black, and at £5500, so pretty much Pinarello priced, and in my opinion, didnt look quite as impressive for that dosh.

2. I get a call from Andy at Slane Cycles, saying that the Nytro they'd expected has indeed landed, and is in his hands, -......how tall was I ?
Cue much measuring and debating, sending of photos, comparing my Bikes geometry with the Nytro, etc etc etc...... really really helpful, I couldnt fault their assistance at all, fantastic.

So, I dived in, and the Bike arrived before the weekend.

Cue a long ride on Saturday, 65mls, with about 2700' of ups in the rolling East Yorks countyside, and I have to say the Nytro was fantasticly comfortable, even compared to my Roubaix.

The first 30miles I didnt even have the Battery/Motor on, as it was flat, but as we reached the climbs, the motor was a godsend for me, and achieved exactly what I wanted to, in reducing my HR.

125watts gives a gentle assist to the revolutions......
250watts helps you along with a noticeble rush.....
400watts is a massive help uphill, incredible.

You still have to pedal, so are still working out, but at a level thats far more comfortable for me at least.
Stop pedalling, Motor stops too, and anything over 15mph it wont work anyway.

Frequently, on similar rides, my HR gets to what I deem to be unadviseable levels of 170-180 with even easy effort uphill, and averages of 140+.
With a familiar history of Heart issues, and indeed some arrythmias myself, mostly alcohol induced, an Ebike seemed a sensible route to go for me.

In that, it completely succeeded, my average over the 65miles was 130bpm, with a Max of 160, and at no point did I feel that pounding in my chest that does concern me at my age.

I know others will scoff at the Ebike movement, and hats off to those that refuse to ever consider not 'pushing' themselves, but I aint one of them !
This Nytro simply allows me to ride with the others as fast uphill as well as down, and simply makes the ride more enjoyable for me.
With a half mile of my house, there are 2 steep climbs which we 'never' ride up, as they feature much too early in a ride before your even remotely warmed up. As they would be direct routes to some of the better stuff beyond, thats a shame, but with this Nytro, I can breeze up without an issue, meaning I'm more likely to ride more in actual fact, and vary my rides far more.

Yes, £6k is a lot of money, but I had the chance, and felt the need, so jumped in. I know its perhaps not an option for many, and my post isnt in any way meant to be a 'willy waving, I've got a Pinarello' kind of post, its purely an honest report on the road in my decision.

I feel sure the EBike movement is going to be massive, and I reckon in a years time, all the main contenders will have an Ebike in their range, I really do.

Thanks for reading.

Does anyone know if there is a way to remove the Nytro’s sensor so it doesn’t cut off at 25km/hr?
 
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Does anyone know if there is a way to remove the Nytro’s sensor so it doesn’t cut off at 25km/hr?

Well, I imagine removing the sensor on the rear spokes might do the trick, but not sure, havent tried it.

For me, I dont want that anyway, it isnt on the flat I bought the assistance for, just the hills I despise so much !
 
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After waiting a couple of months for my Gain to come in, I cancelled the order and picked up a Nytro. Really is a game changer

Hope you love the bike as much as I do, its a beauty eh ? The Orbea was a nice bike, and theyre allegedly going to be producing a Carbon Framed verson next year too, but I wasnt sold on the Ebikemotion system, which wasnt removeable etc. Of the bikes using the Fazua system, Focus/Cube/Whisper, and a few others, I think all the prices are going to be up in the £4-6k range, so why I jumped onto the Nytro.
Enjoy.
 
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