New Foresters don't like cyclists

[Stonechat]

MAtcham's is clearly not on the published course, If they up the mileage I will not enter

 

[DRHysted]

MAtcham's is clearly not on the published course, If they up the mileage I will not enter

They've not published this years course yet. The one on their site is last years.

I must say I am interested to see this years route, and if they avoid Blissford hill like they were suggesting (to calm the locals). If so what hill they'll find to replace it!

 

[Philip Whiteman]

If anyone is looking for enjoyable and well patronised events in the New Forest that do not come with a high price tag. Take a look at the following:
http://www.cyclingnewforest.org/may-ctc--audax-events.html

 

[DRHysted]

If anyone is looking for enjoyable and well patronised events in the New Forest that do not come with a high price tag. Take a look at the following:
http://www.cyclingnewforest.org/may-ctc--audax-events.html

These Audaxs really annoy me. How do they always know when I'm on shift. The head of Maintenence at work does a lot of them, and regulary asks me to attend, and they are always when I'm working.
One day I will do an Audax!

 

[Scoop940]

They've not published this years course yet. The one on their site is last years.

I must say I am interested to see this years route, and if they avoid Blissford hill like they were suggesting (to calm the locals). If so what hill they'll find to replace it!

Braggers maybe, it's not 25% but it's a well contested Strava Climb in the Forest and a logical route in from the Avon Causeway. Much better start point than New Park as matchams lane is nowhere near as busy as the brock/Lyndhurst road, I use it regularly as the final run in from a Forest ride back to Ringwood.

 

[Puddles]

If anyone is looking for enjoyable and well patronised events in the New Forest that do not come with a high price tag. Take a look at the following:
http://www.cyclingnewforest.org/may-ctc--audax-events.html

As I just got the thumbs up for Wee Hoo & User76 today from them we are all systems go for the 30 mile one of that, with Squidge pedaling his own too... it will be our first one and thus far further than we have ever ever gone before, unless we get to that amount by then of course!

 

[DRHysted]

MAtcham's is clearly not on the published course, If they up the mileage I will not enter

new course is now shown, 84 miles, fairly easy gradients by the look of it.
http://connect.garmin.com/course/5537507

 

[Stonechat]

The shorter is now 60. Miles, so will not do in Spring, maybe Autumn

 

[Jonny Wright]

Was tempted by this, but all the stories of local NIMBYs putting tacks down, and removing signage.. Not sure it'll be all that enjoyable?

 

[Philip Whiteman]

Two extracts from the minutes of meetings of Brockenhurst Parish Council:
http://www.brockenhurst.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15080

February 2014
iii) Cycling Issues. We have been informed that Gang Warily will not be the venue for the October Wiggle event. The July venue is still unknown although the event itself is smaller. The April events will go through Brockenhurst but the location of the feed station shown on the map is not clear. It is thought the July event to the IOW will now avoid Brockenhurst. We have been asked to provide written evidence of complaints from residents following previous events. The issue of improvement to the cycle routes will be brought up again at the next Quadrant meeting.

January 2014
On the cycling issues, Cllr. Thornber is now a member of the NPA and reported that the Wiggle has offered various concessions to reduce the problems of the sportives but that the NPA can apply for the removal of permitted rights which would require the organisers to obtain permission, should the Code of Conduct be broken, and that the county council can apply for a ban. A request was made that the parishes affected should be able to identify the places that they would like the sportives to avoid.

 

[solidthegreat]

Two extracts from the minutes of meetings of Brockenhurst Parish Council:
http://www.brockenhurst.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15080

February 2014
iii) Cycling Issues. We have been informed that Gang Warily will not be the venue for the October Wiggle event. The July venue is still unknown although the event itself is smaller. The April events will go through Brockenhurst but the location of the feed station shown on the map is not clear. It is thought the July event to the IOW will now avoid Brockenhurst. We have been asked to provide written evidence of complaints from residents following previous events. The issue of improvement to the cycle routes will be brought up again at the next Quadrant meeting.

January 2014
On the cycling issues, Cllr. Thornber is now a member of the NPA and reported that the Wiggle has offered various concessions to reduce the problems of the sportives but that the NPA can apply for the removal of permitted rights which would require the organisers to obtain permission, should the Code of Conduct be broken, and that the county council can apply for a ban. A request was made that the parishes affected should be able to identify the places that they would like the sportives to avoid.

Some people really make me laugh, so you can only imagine what a village full is making me do!!!
Great idea, ban the healthy none emission producing non car park space taking cyclist. They are the work of the devil after all. I wonder what the thought would be if the tour of Britain or Tour de France wanted to go through their town. Surely they wouldn't be hypocrites and say that is ok.

 

[John Shingler]

I know it's not all about animals but what I don't get its the cars killing the animals, not people riding bikes.

 

[DRHysted]

I know it's not all about animals but what I don't get its the cars killing the animals, not people riding bikes.

It's not about the animals, it's also not about the care of the forest as was shown when there was only one complaint from the fallen leaves event last December (the off road one) and the complaint was that a gate was left open (this can carry a fine as it could allow an animal to gain access to a high speed road).
This hole storm in a tea cup is that a few load mouthed people don't like the sight of lycra, and don't like being inconvenienced for a day. The local rags are continually stirring the pot by printing inflammatory stories without even trying to find out if there is any truth to the allegations.
I for one am sick to the back teeth, it is not a true reflection of an outstanding area of natural beauty that should be here for all to enjoy.

 

[Scoop940]

It's not about the animals, it's also not about the care of the forest as was shown when there was only one complaint from the fallen leaves event last December (the off road one) and the complaint was that a gate was left open (this can carry a fine as it could allow an animal to gain access to a high speed road).
This hole storm in a tea cup is that a few load mouthed people don't like the sight of lycra, and don't like being inconvenienced for a day. The local rags are continually stirring the pot by printing inflammatory stories without even trying to find out if there is any truth to the allegations.
I for one am sick to the back teeth, it is not a true reflection of an outstanding area of natural beauty that should be here for all to enjoy.

absolutely bang on. I did reply to one of the articles along those lines and the response was printed. the local press really don't help

 

[Philip Whiteman]

Two updates regarding the National Park Authority and Cycling.

STOPPING THE USE OF SIGNAGE

In the minutes of December's meeting, a reference is made to "Article 4" being promoted by a councillor. Article 4 is a planning control advice for use in conservation areas. The Authority could forbid the use posters and waymarkers on street furniture in conservation areas. In effect, sportive entrants would not be able to benefit from Wiggle providing signage. However, this would not forbid the use of marshals at critical junctions.

CAUSING A PUBLIC NUISANCE

In the minutes of the recent March, it is apparent that a person lodged a complaint to the Police about the events:

"Chief Inspector Rowlinson commented that, following the public nuisance complaint that had been received regarding cycle events, the Crown Prosecution Service had found that there was no public nuisance in respect of that event which was a cycle sportif. However there were some recommendations that had been made in preparation for the next event in April. The CPS wanted to work within the Cycling Code and Cycling Charter to enable sportif’s to continue in a safe and lawful way".