I will once we have time travel and aren't condemned by the mistakes already made with that site.Why not start a thread on there then?
I can see that's a fair point and understand it. Personally I don't have that big an issue with pressing a button to view overtly political content if I so desire. It is no different than using the great outdoors site.The way I use the forum is to look at new posts, if I see something I like I read it, I usually take no notice of what sub forum the post is in, I don't see the posts in the new forum and have no desire to join just a political forum, I sometimes found it interesting to read the views on politics of fellow cyclists, although you could never be sure who actualy turned a pedal, but it was part of a cycling forum so you hope they did, it was like discussing things on a club run that to me was more interesting than discussing them on Question time.
I'd suggest nowhere for at least a week and maybe longer. Let things settle down. Focus on healing this site more than promoting the other one. If you have to close a thread for being off-topic political, don't include an advert for the other site. Probably don't start any more political threads with messages telling people not to discuss certain aspects - many of us are British and sarcasm isn't exactly a rare form of comedy.So where do we go then?
More engagement with the community.So where do we go then?
Stop checking every post looking for problems? Bothe now or in the old P&CA. If you look hard enough you will always find a problem.So where do we go then?
1. Encourage, rather than suppress political consciousness.So where do we go then?
I think we do all that. I don't always see eye to eye with you on those things but I do respect your views. That's not what I meant though. I mean, PaCA isn't coming back for lots of reasons but if there's a compromise which would work for everyone perhaps we should aim for that, something constructive which will move us forward.@User has given the answer:
Deal with the overt sexism, misogyny, racism, homophobia and other types of hate talk. Deal with those who are purely there to troll (and they are very obvious by their posts) and let those who want to get on with having an adult debate do so.
This may mean robust and sometimes heated disagreement - but we get over it as that’s what adults do. I have had strong debates and exchanges with quite a few people on here and yet I’ve enjoyed meeting them in person and sharing a gin or two. Because most people on here are grown ups...
Either there is going to be an arena for political and topical discussion, or there isn't. If there isn't, where's the compromise? If there is, then let's talk about how to make it work. I have given some suggestions.I think we do all that. I don't always see eye to eye with you on those things but I do respect your views. That's not what I meant though. I mean, PaCA isn't coming back for lots of reasons but if there's a compromise which would work for everyone perhaps we should aim for that, something constructive which will move us forward.
You have and there's a lot I agree with but then I was a reader of contributor of PaCA, not everyone is and not everyone enjoyed getting tangled up in the forum. Ultimately you have a forum made up of cyclists not political minded debaters, so there's always a balance to be struck, which recently I don't think we'd struck. Even PaCA was bleeding members.Either there is going to be an arena for political and topical discussion, or there isn't. If there isn't, where's the compromise? If there is, then let's talk about how to make it work. I have given some suggestions.