No TV licence - anyone else?

[AndyRM]

Genuine lol at comparing the Murdoch Empire to the BBC.

Whatever, this'll end up getting locked, or I'll get banned if I carry on.

 

[FishFright]

When the Beeb was the bulk of broadcasts a 'licence' made sense but now the only represents a tiny slice of what is available a universal charge makes no sense .

A separate charge for the BBC's output is the only way to go and for it's fans it will be a bargain and the rest of us can rest easy.

 

[albion]

When the Beeb was the bulk of broadcasts a 'licence' made sense but now the only represents a tiny slice of what is available a universal charge makes no sense .

A separate charge for the BBC's output is the only way to go and for it's fans it will be a bargain and the rest of us can rest easy.

There would be about 10% takeup so 80% of content would likely be lost. Plus those paying double would avoid the ads.
Also it would go streaming only, there not being less money for the masts.

Someone like Comcast would quicky snap it up for a US style £500 a year package excluding sport. $500 to $1000+ per year is much the norm in the US. Limited PSB sees to that.

 

[Milzy]

If everybody stopped paying they’d re-think their model. Every year more refuse to pay.

 

[albion]

France now has it via VAT. We are not yet totally dominated by a fact free media zone.

Not that I would bet my bin on it.

 

[Mike_P]

If we had fact free media presumably that would be complete garbage.

 

[nogoodnamesleft]

It’s not really required though as millions have not paid for years & they have not been fined.

Which is only increasing the price for the rest of us and possibly even reducing the amount the BBC can offer to cover major events like the Commonwealth Games which went to TNT.

How is it "increasing the price for the rest of us" any more than somebody only watching "catch-up TV" and legally not paying for a license. Does somebody not watching and not paying increase costs for everybody else. How does watching illegally increase costs (given BBC pay the same to the sports companies, pay the same to the transmission services, etc.)?

Offset that against somebody like me who pays for a TV license but doesn't watch and BBC TV so I'm reducing your costs/increasing what the BBC can offer.

 

[albion]

France now has it via VAT. We are not yet totally dominated by a fact free media zone.

Not that I would bet my bin on it.

Semi skimmed anyone? Letter to the editor. Just another dip in the pool.

 

[Milzy]

How is it "increasing the price for the rest of us" any more than somebody only watching "catch-up TV" and legally not paying for a license. Does somebody not watching and not paying increase costs for everybody else. How does watching illegally increase costs (given BBC pay the same to the sports companies, pay the same to the transmission services, etc.)?

Offset that against somebody like me who pays for a TV license but doesn't watch and BBC TV so I'm reducing your costs/increasing what the BBC can offer.

Nice point. Many don’t watch and pay helping people like Mo out. Skewed views from Mo sadly.

 

[Mo1959]

Nice point. Many don’t watch and pay helping people like Mo out. Skewed views from Mo sadly.

At least I watch legally.

 

[Electric_Andy]

I don't agree with the price but we pay anyway. Skirting the law and pretending it's ok is a bit of a slippery slope

 

[nogoodnamesleft]

Nice point. Many don’t watch and pay helping people like Mo out. Skewed views from Mo sadly.

At least I watch legally.

The point was that you are being subsidised by me (and others) who have to pay but don't watch the BBC. It highlights the daft manner the BBC is funded.

But I'm now so disappointed in the BBC output I think I'll be not renewing TV License next renewal (and will remain legal).

 

[Mo1959]

The point was that you are being subsidised by me (and others) who have to pay but don't watch the BBC. It highlights the daft manner the BBC is funded.

But I'm now so disappointed in the BBC output I think I'll be not renewing TV License next renewal (and will remain legal).

So you won't watch any live tv whatsoever?

There was discussions around including it with something like community charge which might actually be fairer and result in a smaller cost for everyone.

 

[AndyRM]

So you won't watch any live tv whatsoever?

There was discussions around including it with something like community charge which might actually be fairer and result in a smaller cost for everyone.

Or iPlayer, which is something I feel a lot of folk forget. The amount of content on there is vast too.

 

[nogoodnamesleft]

So you won't watch any live tv whatsoever?
...

TV License funds the BBC yet watching any channel means you must pay it.

For the last year I have only one Channel 4 live program on in the background each day (C4 News). But that's a "side effect" of the time I cook supper so very happy not to have C4 News and save myself a fair cost each year.

Used to watch BBC Newsnight but their cuts turned it into a waste of time so gave up (Cut useful programs like Newsnight which spending vast sums of Strictly Come Bake Me Up" (or whatever). Not something I want to watch so why am I paying (or rather why am I subsidising those who love that stuff?).

Reports are that a lot are giving-up TV License so BBC has to sort it's funding anyway so better sort it sooner rather than just face ongoing income reduction and crisis.