Not so cheerful thread

[magnatom]

I would certainly do it if I thought my child was under threat.

I my wife did it to me I would be devastated and would never stop trying to get my child returned.

Where is there even the slightest suggestion that the kids in this instance were under any threat?

 

[Globalti]

No but what do we know?

 

[theclaud]

I know nothing about the case or the family but Syrian society and manners are strongly influenced by France and indeed many older Syrians only speak Arabic and French. Having lived in France where social structures are more rigid than in Britain and having spent many weeks in Syria I can easily see how a Syrian family might be shocked at the apparent collapse of the once-respected British culture into a disgusting morass of alcohol, drugs and celebrity-obsessed, intellectually shallow trash.

WTF has any of this to do with anything? He abducted the kids! It's not a contest of cultural superiority.

 

[Globalti]

Well, what would you do if, for example, you believed there was a genuine danger that your growing children might become alcoholics or drug addicts?

 

[theclaud]

Well, what would you do if, for example, you believed there was a genuine danger that your growing children might become alcoholics or drug addicts?

I hope no one is going to dignify this nonsense with a response.

 

[magnatom]

No but what do we know?

Lets stick to what we do know, shall we.

Oh and have a look at the first post in this thread. It is by someone who know the kids and the family...

The father isn't the nicest of blokes, but kept up custody

 

[PaulB]

Yes we are only hearing the mothers side. Quite correct. Why is that though? Hmm. the father has taken the kids away and gone into hiding to keep them away from the kids. If the father had a justifiable reason for what he did, don't you think he would be willing to share that?

I have two wonderful sons and another child on the way. I love them to bits. However, there is no way I would even consider cutting them off from their mum. That is an incredibly selfish thing to do.

We simply don't know and can only speculate but I refer to my earlier posting; no power in the world could have kept me from my kids. It's entirely possible he doesn't wish to be tried in the court of the British media or maybe he knows of similar cases where kids were returned from Syria to mothers abroad and suffered as a result. We don't know. All we do have is what the newspapers in this country are telling us and I'm not going to condemn him based on that.

 

[magnatom]

We simply don't know and can only speculate but I refer to my earlier posting; no power in the world could have kept me from my kids. It's entirely possible he doesn't wish to be tried in the court of the British media or maybe he knows of similar cases where kids were returned from Syria to mothers abroad and suffered as a result. We don't know. All we do have is what the newspapers in this country are telling us and I'm not going to condemn him based on that.

He was not kept from his kids. He had access.

Let me ask you this... who is more important in your relationship with your kids? Who do you want to remain happy? You or your kids? Then think about your suggestions that you would do anything to keep them.

 

[PaulB]

He was not kept from his kids. He had access.

Let me ask you this... who is more important in your relationship with your kids? Who do you want to remain happy? You or your kids? Then think about your suggestions that you would do anything to keep them.

Let me ask you this; what's stopping the mother going to live with her kids in Syria?

 

[ComedyPilot]

Child abduction/custody fight.

Nothing to see, move along.

 

[theclaud]

Let me ask you this; what's stopping the mother going to live with her kids in Syria?

FFS!

 

[PaulB]

FFS!

You can FFS all you like but she seems to be dictating they have to live over here. Why?

 

[theclaud]

You can FFS all you like but she seems to be dictating they have to live over here. Why?

Er, because that's were they were living when they were ABDUCTED and taken to Syria illegally. She doesn't even know where they are! Are you writing this bilge in a batman suit?

 

[Globalti]

This reminds me of the Molly Campbell debate, which aroused similar heated passions. I posted on here in a very similar vein that we had no idea about the mother's circumstances and most posters didn't appreciate that in Lahore pretty young Molly might actually enjoy a pleasant and fun lifestyle. Most poured scorn on the idea that she might actually be better off in Pakistan.

Many months later after it had all gone off the radar my wife and I met up with somebody we know from Lewis, who happens to know the family very well. He was less than complimentary about the mother and made it clear that she would be having difficulty supporting her, er, lifestyle without the financial benefits her daughter had been bringing into the family home - just as I had suspected all along.

 

[Crackle]

Many months later after it had all gone off the radar my wife and I met up with somebody we know from Lewis, who happens to know the family very well. He was less than complimentary about the mother and made it clear that she would be having difficulty supporting her, er, lifestyle without the financial benefits her daughter had been bringing into the family home - just as I had suspected all along.

Oh well, there's nothing like personal gossip in a small community for accuracy. We should rely more on personal gossip and get rid of the judicial system/social services/police etc... There's a bloke down the road who holds his daughters hand in a funny way. I've long suspected something's not right and I've never seen him at work.