Now that the religious thread has slowed down can we talk about immigration

[snapper_37]

At this stage you might start to say to people who want to move to your boat......."What can you offer if you come to our boat?"

Since I've been mixing with EU immigrants (skilled, unskilled and middle management) for a number of years now, I'd say the majority had and do have a lot to offer.

In fact, in certain industries, without such immigrant labour, the 'pleasant' boat would have sank a long time ago.

 

[Fnaar]

[QUOTE 2373268, member: 1314"]Someone call? lol

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Was that taken in Tunbridge Wells?

 

[snailracer]

[QUOTE 2373406, member: 1314"]You mean like this..?

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"You see that black fellow waving? I assume he's African, probably speaks French. Where the heck has he come from and why is he on the boat? He doesn't appear to be European. Who's paying ? You and me, the good old...."

 

[Minotier]

I can see a time in the not too distant future when international borders get too costly to maintain for nations. So they will be abolished.
We will all live in one big happy community and share all equally amongst everyone.
Oh and these Tramadol are great!

 

[User169]

Can we talk about emigrants? They're bloody rubbish - going off to Newvancouverfrisco - banging on about big prawns!

 

[Fab Foodie]

I didn't know that!

I lived outside of Aylesbury when they won the world cup in '82. All of a sudden the town was transformed by tricolore flags. Turns out that thousands of POWs stayed on after the second world war to work in the brick kilns

Same in Bedford, the Italian population is huge, also Pakistanis, when they won the cricket you could hear the celebrations in sorrounding villages.
There was a food factory with 2 plants, one made Pizzas and dough balls etc and the other Samosas Bhaji's etc. No surprise where there staff came from. In the Indian product factory they had so many different languages that it became hard to manage production. However, one system worked well and amused me. The work was very manual with small teams making a wide variety of products. IIRC Ingredients were pre-weighed and put into large plastic boxes and taken to the team. In each box was a hand-sized plastic animal shape, like you might use in a sand-pit. If the team saw a blue elephant they knew they were the ingredients for vegetable Samosas, in the same way the ingredient weighers knew what was needed to make the blue elephant product. A horse might be onion bhajis etc. etc. Seemed to work OK.

 

[swee'pea99]

[QUOTE 2373459, member: 1314"]Basingstoke![/quote]
Once described by my sister after she moved there as 'like Croydon without the glamour'.

 

[clarion]

That'd be 'The Black Jacobins' for anyone wishing to experience CLR James' wonderful writing.

 

[Fab Foodie]

Once described by my sister after she moved there as 'like Croydon without the glamour'.

Or by Arch as 'Basingrad' which is most apt.

 

[Fnaar]

Same in Bedford, the Italian population is huge

That'll be all the pasta

 

[Fab Foodie]

That'll be all the pasta

Boom-tish!

I'll pitch-em up and you whack-em

 

[Electric_Andy]

I'll start. I'm one of those people who left the country to make room for somebody else to move in.

I think the reason most people have a problem with immigration is because a) we're told by the Daily Mail and the BBC that immigrants come over here and claim £1500 a week in benefits. Lots of people believe what they read, so pass on this information and form a negative view of nearly all immigrants. We're also told that "The Polish will work for half the price". Not strictly true - probably more accurate to say that lots of native labour workers (especially "youngsters") will refuse to do hard work for minimum wage, whereas the immigrants snap it up.

It was the same when I was fruit picking in Australia. All the fruitpickers were foreigners, and all the employers said that the locals refused to pick fruit because it was too much work for too little money.

 

[mrandmrspoves]

[QUOTE 2373272, member: 1314"]Writing as someone who lives on 2 "pleasant ships" I'll have no problem with you moving onboard with me either to London or the Punjab.[/quote]

Thanks for the invite

 

[mrandmrspoves]

You might need to expand on this bit. What makes it less pleasant? Is it an inevitability? Is there a corresponding increase in the pleasantness of the other ship? If not why not?

What makes it less pleasant is the lack of facilities to accommodate all the people that want to jump ship. If we were talking about a ship we would be talking about toilet facilities, food supplies, accommodation etc.
In Britain we may be talking about housing, employment, school places, health care facilities.
Does this movement make the less pleasant ship more pleasant? Possibly - if the people that left that ship were not contributing to the benefit of those aboard that ship.
Conversely of course, if they were valued contributors on that ship, their loss would have a negative impact on that ship and if they carried skills and knowledge on to the more pleasant ship the disadvantage of increased crowding may be well compensated by the knowledge and skills gained.

 

[mrandmrspoves]

[QUOTE 2373406, member: 1314"]You mean like this..?

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That wasn't quite how I envisaged it......