Official Closest pass video

[goo_mason]

Cheers Mr tdr1nka. I think some folk forget that watching the video again and again is a luxury that you don't have during the 0.5 seconds where you need to make the decisions!

By the way I will be looking into an advanced driving course not a cycling course. My cycling is already advanced......

Sounds interesting. Here's another idea - we invite Lee up to be part of the PfS 2009 team. And let him wear the camera.

 

[Crackle]

Cheers Mr tdr1nka. I think some folk forget that watching the video again and again is a luxury that you don't have during the 0.5 seconds where you need to make the decisions!

By the way I will be looking into an advanced driving course not a cycling course. My cycling is already advanced......

I avoided spitting tea on the laptop but I did have to towel the dog down.

 

[magnatom]

Actually I'm not sure I could afford the lessons I would need and the test. Monies a bit tight at the moment, espacially as I am wanting a new bike!

Hmm. I'll look into it, but maybe not for a while...

 

[magnatom]

I avoided spitting tea on the laptop but I did have to towel the dog down.

Actually, I would like to take part in one of the bikeability courses or something similar, but I don't think they hold them in Scotland. Anyone know?

 

[magnatom]

Sounds interesting. Here's another idea - we invite Lee up to be part of the PfS 2009 team. And let him wear the camera.

Is this another hint at me editing the footage?

 

[magnatom]

Actually, the training might be free!!

http://www.iamglasgow.org/index.asp?key=8

Cool!

 

[tdr1nka]

Actually, I would like to take part in one of the bikeability courses or something similar, but I don't think they hold them in Scotland. Anyone know?

Have a look here.

 

[col]

Again what i have noticed is the usual little digs from the usual people because someone dissagrees.For the record i would have come off the rb in secondary and stayed there till i was near the pinch point and checked for a gap then moved over,if there was no gap i wouldnt and would have waited till there was.This i believe is the safest thing to do all round.There are genuine reasons for primary,just as there are not genuine reasons for it,this was the latter in my opinion.The driver was an impatient idiot,but then we know they are out there,so i would err on the side of caution and safety in this instance.

 

[cycling fisherman]

Again what i have noticed is the usual little digs from the usual people because someone dissagrees

The thing is col, this is a public internet forum and that is the type of thing that happens on here the internet, (ushers col to one side and reassures him he is not alone in these shallow thoughts)

A place of expression, debate and thought provoking posts and threads...

Come on col lighten up it's all just a bit of fun (brings col back to the forum and pats him on the back)

 

[col]

The thing is col, this is a public internet forum and that is the type of thing that happens on here the internet, (ushers col to one side and reassures him he is not alone in these shallow thoughts)

A place of expression, debate and thought provoking posts and threads...

Come on col lighten up it's all just a bit of fun (brings col back to the forum and pats him on the back

(ushers fisherman to the side of the room and points out a familiar patern that he may not have noticed)
Im as light as a light thing,just an observation of a familiar tactic used by some.
(does a morecambe slap and says thanks for the moral boost,but you misunderstood observation for shallow,squeezes his cheeks so he has duck lips,and says,now try to whistle?)

 

[tdr1nka]

IMO, considering the road conditions, Mag took the safest line off the roundabout and had plenty of room to move.

Had he taken a secondary position it would've been likely the cab might just as easily made the same move as Mag entered the pinch point.

If this cab had been hunting Mags back wheel and displaying signs of impatience then I might well be suggesting he should have dropped back and let the idiot past.
This driver was impatient and took a pretty major risk with little or no warning.
Add the oncoming traffic into the equation his decision was potentially lethal.

What I really mean to say is that Mags was taking a visible, safe and confident position on the road, something some motorists, and cyclists it appears, should try accept, adapt and understand as the norm for the safety of all cyclists.

 

[col]

IMO, considering the road conditions, Mag took the safest line off the roundabout and had plenty of room to move.

Had he stayed in a secondary position it would've been likely the cab might just as easily made the same move as Mag entered the pinch point.

If this cab had been hunting Mags back wheel and displaying signs of impatience then I might well be suggesting he should have dropped back and let the idiot past.
This driver was impatient and took a pretty major risk with little or no warning.
Add the oncoming traffic into the equation his decision was potentially lethal.

What I really mean to say is that Mags was taking a visible, safe and confident position on the road, something some motorists, and cyclists it appears, should try accept, adapt and understand as the norm for the safety of all cyclists.

In this case his position encouraged a dangerous pass,and it might have happened at the pinch point if he hadnt looked before moving out,which i doubt would be the case.
What,it seems some cyclists should accept is that we cant always claim a road and hold others up when there is no need to,it causes things like this to happen.Now a more considerate and safer way is to go secondary and let these vehicles pass before hitting the narrow.

 

[tdr1nka]

In this case his position encouraged a dangerous pass,and it might have happened at the pinch point if he hadnt looked before moving out,which i doubt would be the case.
What,it seems some cyclists should accept is that we cant always claim a road and hold others up when there is no need to,it causes things like this to happen.Now a more considerate and safer way is to go secondary and let these vehicles pass before hitting the narrow.

Just being a cyclist is often encouragement enough to the impatient.

FWIW I see Mag taking and holding his road space more or less consistently from the moment he left the roundabout to the point of the overtake.

The question of when one can or cannot hold up traffic should be down to the individual cyclist to decide by their own assesment.

As cyclists we have, by law, the right to be allowed to go about our business without fear of idiots like the driver in this example.
Allowing drivers such as this to decide how and where someone can cycle is something that should be derided.

Every pun intended.

 

[col]

Just being a cyclist is often encouragement enough to the impatient.

FWIW I see Mag taking and holding his road space more or less consistently from the moment he left the roundabout to the point of the overtake.

The question of when one can or cannot hold up traffic should be down to the individual cyclist to decide by their own assesment.

As cyclists we have, by law, the right to be allowed to go about our business without fear of idiots like the driver in this example.
Allowing drivers such as this to decide how and where someone can cycle is something that should be derided.

Every pun intended.

I agree with you.But taking a road position that holds others up when there is plenty of distance to pull in and let them by is just asking for impatient drivers to push passed. why not let it passed before the narrow?

 

[tdr1nka]

I agree with you.But taking a road position that holds others up when there is plenty of distance to pull in and let them by is just asking for impatient drivers to push passed. why not let it passed before the narrow?

That's the thing tho, and Mag admits this, he had no impression that this driver was trying to get past until he made the move to overtake.

Would it not have been better if the driver had stayed back the few seconds until Mag passed the pinch point wherein he would have pulled over after the first parked car and waved thanks as the driver passed?

Admittedly there are plenty of cyclists/numpties/POB's I encounter, usually wearing headphones, who are utterly oblivious of the flow of traffic around them and do bring out this kind of reckless daring in motorists, but in this instance I don't feel Mags is being such an enormous obstacle to this driver.

FWIW If I had to get out of the way of every impatient motorist I meet I'd be better off walking.