Paper Helmet ??

Discussion in 'Helmet Discussions' started by Scoosh, 17 Nov 2016.

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  1. User1252

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    You seem very certain about this, so presumably you can equally certainly say exactly what amount of protection?
     
  2. Yes.

    Some.
     
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  3. User1252

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    So not a clue then really. Is this design supposed to be about protection, or about an illusion of protection? If the former, someone should be working to the bare minimum standards demanded of helmets. If the latter, someone should be being a bit more honest about the fact that we are essentially looking at an ornament.
     
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  4. TinyMyNewt

    TinyMyNewt An execrable pun

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    If it is just an ornament, who would wear it, and when? It's pretty unisex, so men and women could choose it to wear to a wedding, or a funeral. It could be specially colour or pattern coordinated to match an outfit. Can anyone honestly see a future for this masterpiece of design smartness?
     
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  5. ufkacbln

    ufkacbln Guest

    The answer you are seeking is already in the thread

    See Paper Helmet ??
     
  6. Adrian, as has been stated over and over. The Dyson design award is not judged on the criteria that you want it judged.

    Perhaps you need to start your own design competition and you can include whatever criteria floats your boat.
     
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  7. User1252

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    Or perhaps Dyson could develop some social responsibility.
     
  8. Pat "5mph"

    Pat "5mph" A kilogrammicaly challenged woman Moderator

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    Yes, would be ok with me, as long as it was marketed as an ornament or as a novelty object that is maybe good only for one cuppa.
    Trouble here is that a cycling helmet is supposed to be safety equipment.
    Of course we all know the limitations of a chocolate teapot, but imo the limitations of this paper helmet are not yet known.
    When they will be known, will the limitations be in very, very small print on the inside?
    You could not bank on the weather here: for a start it could be sunshine one minute, pouring rain the next.
    I've seen a NextBike (our Boris bikes) in the park tonight. There's sheet ice about.
    All kind of folks use the Next Bikes here, even regular cyclists with their own bike, when they don't want to lock it up in town for example.
    Of course, they could provide their own helmets, so maybe they would not buy a paper one.
    I get what you mean for single use, but one could hit their head pretty badly even on a 5 minute ride.
    So, I could perhaps concede the title of "innovative design" to the object.
    Innovative but single use only: just like a chocolate teapot then ^_^
     
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  9. ufkacbln

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    As repeatedly pointed out, it is a design item...... and one which succeeds in this context

    It explores concepts, and as a helmet it is successful in that it functions as such.

    If you want to wear a helmet then it is probably no better or no worse than many others on the market..... which really answers the question as to when it would be worn and yes there is a future if as intended with a design item it triggers further development and improvement. Suppose someone takes the design and than uses a light plastic and solves the waterproofing problem

    Applying a bizarre set of criteria in order to try and ridicule the item merely shows this misunderstanding


    Now apply the question to any item of cycle clothing such as my waterproof jacket, SPD shoes or bib tights (All of which have won design awards) ................ They're pretty unisex, so men and women could choose to wear them to a wedding, or a funeral. They could be a special colour or pattern coordinated to match an outfit.

    As a test most cycle equipment fails .........Can anyone honestly see a future for any cycle specific clothing?
     
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  10. TinyMyNewt

    TinyMyNewt An execrable pun

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    Now that is just silly. If it's a helmet, it should offer protection. If it's a hat, it should be aesthetically pleasing. Perhaps it's just a bit of art. The functions of the other examples you suggest are clearly defined, and their forms follow from them.
     
  11. User1252

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    You seem to be missing the point here. It is visually a helmet, it is described as a helmet, it will be sold as a helmet, and will, most probably, be accepted as having powers of protection. Has it got them or not? If not, then who is responsible for the mis-selling?
     
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  12. shouldbeinbed

    shouldbeinbed Rollin' along

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    Nobody is offering it for sale. It's a design competition with a hefty cash prize to fund further development.

    Have you read the BBC article linked in the opening post or the design brief JJ posted a couple of pages or so ago? It may dispel any thoughts that this is a product ready for marketing.
     
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  13. ufkacbln

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    I clarified this for you before, once again please see post 87:

    Paper Helmet ??
     
  14. ufkacbln

    ufkacbln Guest

    Again, please see post 87:

    Paper Helmet ??
     
  15. How many times Adrian

    Yes. It offers protection. Perhaps you should take the time to review previous post including video footage of impact testing.

    Then maybe you can stop asking the same question over and over...and getting the same answer.
     
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