Parking wars outside my house

[Deleted member 26715]

Yeah but I need all of you on board buzzing with ideas as well, otherwise I will just be the bogeyman killjoy.

Ah ha we have finally outed you we knew the truth, I think we all know this is a very complex issue, but nobody on the anti-car side is coming up with any solutions just blaming the private car owners, are we even restricting ourselves to the actual parking issue, or are we trying to solve the whole pollution issue? If it's the parking, then stop all this need for every youngster going to university & support local businesses in taking on local apprenticeships, stop all out of town retail developments, or close down all in town shops.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

- and how do you make provision for the numerous different school and work destinations and start and finish times without going back to the situation where all children attended the same school and all villagers worked in the same town at the same large employers (now closed - of course)?

For school the intake comes from within 3 miles so the vast majority of kids can walk. For the tiny minority outside of 3 miles a school bus is laid on.

For work you develop park and ride and eliminate cars from the centre of towns.

A great deal of people could work from home if their employers let them and the Government offered incentives.

 

[Deleted member 26715]

I think you need to read the thread a bit more carefully.

Thank you for your insight, but I think you are incorrect

 

[Dirk]

The only solution is to not have your own private transport, and just use the local bus/train/tram service.

Or live on a private road like I do.

 

[Deleted member 26715]

For school the intake comes from within 3 miles so the vast majority of kids can walk. For the tiny minority outside of 3 miles a school bus is laid on.

Is it acceptable to expect a 5 year old child to walk 3 miles to school, my grandkids walk 1.1 miles most days, unless the weather is really bad.

For work you develop park and ride and eliminate cars from the centre of towns.

That will still not stop all the incessant HGV's delivering.

 

[snorri]

Because you put your head above the parapet as the doom slayer of all cars.

There are no doom slayers of all cars on this thread.

 

[theclaud]

Ah ha we have finally outed you we knew the truth, I think we all know this is a very complex issue, but nobody on the anti-car side is coming up with any solutions just blaming the private car owners, are we even restricting ourselves to the actual parking issue, or are we trying to solve the whole pollution issue? If it's the parking, then stop all this need for every youngster going to university & support local businesses in taking on local apprenticeships, stop all out of town retail developments, or close down all in town shops.

They are related problems with the same cause.

Spending Christmas at my mum's house in a dull bit of Surrey is a bit of an eye-opener about how insane the whole thing is. Back home in the Revolutionary Bicycling Village of Mumbles I have eliminated the parking space that was in front of my house by putting potted shrubs all over it, and I just explain to any visitors that, if they must bring their cars, there is usually sufficient parking a few hundred yards away where the road is wider. Meanwhile, in exurbia, my mum's partner, who has one car and private parking off road next to their semi-detached house that would accommodate two, spends the entire day obsessively monitoring the comings and goings of neighbours' vehicles, and moves his car to the on-road space in front of the house as soon as it is vacated - the rationalization for this is that Other People cannot be trusted to park in such a way as to allow him to get easily into and out of his drive. So he effectively uses three spaces at a time. None of this is of any benefit whatsoever to my mother, who has no car, and has long given up requesting that her car-owning partner runs any errands that would benefit her, because any such request is met with anguished cries about the risk of losing his parking space.

Mental.

 

[Deleted member 26715]

Whereas proper investment in rail infrastructure and ‘final mile’ solutions would.

There's a good chance, places like Bluewater, Meadowhell, et al, could have their own terminus where all goods could be delivered to, no need to HGV's

 

[DaveReading]

Is it acceptable to expect a 5 year old child to walk 3 miles to school, my grandkids walk 1.1 miles most days, unless the weather is really bad.

It's not acceptable to expect any child to walk 3 miles to school (i.e. around an hour each way).

 

[Deleted member 26715]

Let me guess, is it because it's too dangerous, because of all the cars?

No I actually think it's the 4 hours that it would take out of my daughter & son in laws life each day.

 

[Deleted member 26715]

Choices choices.

Which are?

 

[Andrew_P]

My kids have never had a lift to School at its peak my wife was going to and from the School 1.8 miles away 3 times a day. Eve if she did drive she wouldn't bother. Would often refuse a lift in the early stages (people stopped offering because she was "mad") because the people who drove, in our street left 20+ minutes before my wife "to make sure they got a park" near the School entrance.

My first step would be to have a usage monitor system, one that charges on top of VED a cost per mile. The cost per mile to be very high for low mileage local journeys. Make most road parking permit only with a permit only for one car per household. Increase VED per additional car registered at an address.

Look at setting up a system similar to the Bike hire for Small Electric Cars.

On the HGV front I would look to dramatically reduce food miles, the fact that a pack of Broccoli & Runner beans from Waitrose has the country of origin list as below is completely mad. Either move back to seasonal Fruit and Veg or force it to be sourced within the UK - or Northern Europe at the max.
Origin Information​

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  • Egypt
  • Guatemala
  • Jordan
  • Kenya
    
    can anyone really look at the world as it is now and see it as sustainable? Don't get me started on Plastic, Food waste and land fill.

 

[irw]

Hence some people's horrible snobbery about having to use the bus.

Use the bus?!

 

[Julia9054]

Choices choices.

Not a viable choice if you have to get your children to school and then go on to your place of work and you don't live in a city or large town where all these places are geographically close to each other.

 

[hopless500]

Is there not a law against blocking a dropped kerb?

Also for double yellows. Although this apparently doesn't apply in Wales. I've never seen so many parked on double yellows on a narrow street in my life. Plus all those blocking the pavement completely so we had to walk in what little of the road was left