Passing cyclists courteously—new video

[Happy_Days]

Have you seen this new video on how car drivers can treat and pass cyclists more safely and courteously?


View: https://youtu.be/UPN_XvaYU2k?feature=shared


How do you think it could be promulgated and promoted to drivers?

 

[Bristolian]

Thanks for the link I've just forwarded it to a couple of my cyclist hating acquaintances. It'll be interesting to hear their responses. I have also sent the link to our local IAM chief observer and training officer for possible inclusion in our associate training sessions.

As to how to promote it to drivers, I'm not sure but one thing is for certain if we (i.e. the cycling community) try to promote it then it will be received with derision and contempt.

 

[Happy_Days]

I have also sent the link to our local IAM chief observer and training officer for possible inclusion in our associate training sessions.

As to how to promote it to drivers, I'm not sure but one thing is for certain if we (i.e. the cycling community) try to promote it then it will be received with derision and contempt.

The IAM is a great way to share the video, and including it in your group’s associate training would be ideal.

Also, do you think IAM headquarters could make other groups aware of Reg’s video?

One of the good things about Reg is that he’s a well-established petrolhead—drivers will take more notice of him than the cycling community.

 

[Drago]

Nice to see someone paying at least lip service to showing caution when passing junctions, a drill most road users don't even bother with.

 

[Slick]

I think most would have scrolled before he even got to the demonstration, and even I switched off when he mentioned the SAS.

 

[mjr]

I think most would have scrolled before he even got to the demonstration, and even I switched off when he mentioned the SAS.

Yes, it would benefit from shorter titles, less waffle, fewer ad breaks and fewer mid-sentence jump cuts. Looks like a 5 minute video that takes 18 minutes. Fewer than 2000 views so far.

The core message is good but the preamble about sharing and taking care of each other seem in poor taste (when did a cyclist's carelessness last kill a motorist?), it's very very slow to get going and I was literally dozing off before there was an overtake. Also, I'm surprised having cameras mounted in the centre of the rear view and on the windscreen inside the driver's view of the wiped area is legal. The whole voiceover is delivered while driving, which seems a bit like distracted driving, even if it's way less dangerous than texting.

 

[Regular.Cyclist]

The windscreen mounted camera is at least a distraction and, at worst, blocking part of the driver’s view. A chip on the windscreen in such an area would be an MOT failure. Is there not a law against having a camera positioned in such a manner?

 

[Drago]

The windscreen mounted camera is at least a distraction and, at worst, blocking part of the driver’s view. A chip on the windscreen in such an area would be an MOT failure. Is there not a law against having a camera positioned in such a manner?

The regulations about obstructions in drivers view apply. Were I still dibble id ask him to move them, and if he chose to argue instead id send to to court to have a proper argument with the mags.

 

[lazybloke]

Dunno about legality, but I believe it's a MOT failure to have anything blocking the drivers view of the area of windscreen swept by the wipers.

Inc cameras, phones & satnavs, air fresheners and fluffy dice etc.

Edit: slight crossover with @Drago, although what is meant by 'regulations'??

 

[Drago]

There are two lots. Vague regulations in RTA about obtructions to driver view, and more detailed regs in con and use about the size of permissable obstructions in different areas of the screen.

And then the MOT regs that splits the screen into zones, but that's a different kettle of fish.

 

[Bristolian]

The IAM is a great way to share the video, and including it in your group’s associate training would be ideal.

Also, do you think IAM headquarters could make other groups aware of Reg’s video?

One of the good things about Reg is that he’s a well-established petrolhead—drivers will take more notice of him than the cycling community.

I will be meeting up with our chief observer on Saturday morning and will see what he thinks about making HQ aware (if they're not already).

 

[Gillstay]

If its his job, then he should do a risk assessment. How can he assess driving and doing a motoring video at the same time as being safe ?

 

[Drago]

If its his job, then he should do a risk assessment. How can he assess driving and doing a motoring video at the same time as being safe ?

In one sense it's not a lot different from doing a commentary on a training or demonstration drive.

 

[Slick]

If its his job, then he should do a risk assessment. How can he assess driving and doing a motoring video at the same time as being safe ?

He can do the risk assessment before doing the activity and if he employed 5 people or less, there's no requirement for it to be documented.

 

[Bristolian]

In one sense it's not a lot different from doing a commentary on a training or demonstration drive.

I agree. I'm currently training for my IAM Masters test and am giving a commentary every time I drive the car, recording it on my dashcam. I do think he could have positioned the camera further away though; it's a small criticism. When I was an ADI I used one that clipped to the sunshade on the passenger side and most pupils didn't even notice it.