Pet's soul....

[Gromit]

Every living thing has a soul, its the spark of life that gives them the will to live.

Nothing created can ever be destroyed, it still exists in some form or another. Just because you cant see it, dose not mean its not there.

 

[Dayvo]

Every living thing has a soul, its the spark of life that gives them the will to live.

Nothing created can ever be destroyed, it still exists in some form or another. Just because you cant see it, dose not mean its not there.

I go along with that, Gromit!

 

[Crackle]

I go along with that, Gromit!

Me too: Jedi'ism

 

[puddleglum]

Every living thing has a soul, its the spark of life that gives them the will to live.

Nothing created can ever be destroyed, it still exists in some form or another. Just because you cant see it, dose not mean its not there.

+1.

 

[Andy in Sig]

All of them or any one in particular?

What about the poor souls who happened to have believed in the wrong god?

One of the more benign ones?

I must say that I think I prefer it being unprovable as to simply follow what a religion says seems to me to be a switching off of one's own being. If a church could definitively prove to me that one tiny part of its whole construction is not of human making, then I might sit up and listen. Until that day I'll happily go my own way.

 

[yenrod]

When you look at the story overall was that it was about a family and a group of followers who had great feeling towards this person.

Then it got wrote about and the rest was history...


And a whole load of people for thousands of years followed it.

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If you let bad thoughts prevail then they'll prevail.

Though goodness/love is a whole lot big better and and stronger!

 

[Riding in Circles]

My dogs both died within a couple of months of each other last year, rationale tells me it is stupid to believe in ghosts but I have heard them both at various times in the house since, usually the little barks they made in their sleep when they were dreaming or the clicking of the claws in the hallway or a sneeze when they were trying to get my attention. So rationale has to lose out to experience.

 

[Riding in Circles]

On the devil keeping you away from church, in the bible Jesus talks about not doing things religiously, including the repetitive aspect of the lords prayer, the prayer was given as an example of the type of things you should pray for, but the church has poisoned that lesson by having people repeat those words ad nauseam so it no longer means anything. In fact organised religion in general does things in a totally repetitive manner, whereas the bible message is about a different experience, a personal one between the individual and God. This experience can only be found by people seeking it earnestly and going to church every week and saying the words while completely failing to understand them will not help, however the church is not interested in you meeting God in your own way, it exists to control you. Yes the devil is indeed clever, he owns organised religion, millions of people who rely on the bible but never read or understand it.

 

[Mr Pig]

however the church is not interested in you meeting God in your own way, it exists to control you.

I agree with your whole post but maybe you should qualify the statement above. Not all Churches are like that, some are God centered. But over all I agree with you. What many people see as representing the Cristian church is a corrupt, humanistic religious machine.

If a church could prove to me that its construction is not of human making, then I might sit up and listen.

I don't believe you. I could do the above very easily but from my experience the people who claim they would change their minds if shown proof seldom mean it. Their minds are fixed and all evidence is interpreted through the lens of what they already wish to believe. (Matt.16: 1-4)

Incidentally, I think this thread should be moved to P&L.

 

[Riding in Circles]

Yes some churchews are God centred, I was primarily talking about the large organisation who count the numbers as a victory and use a liturgy rather than having freedom of the spirit. I know some people claim to be part of a "live" RC or CofE church but in my experience it does not exist, you cannot mix freedom with the bondage of the liturgy.

 

[Mr Pig]

I know some people claim to be part of a "live" RC or CofE church but in my experience it does not exist, you cannot mix freedom with the bondage of the liturgy.

Mmm. Tricky one. I have met good Christians who are part of the Church Of England or the RC Church. What I would say is that being part of these churches, particularly the RC church, doesn't make it easy! Much of their teaching is indeed counter to scripture which makes it much harder for people to find the truth. But they can still manage it, if they're really looking. Although usually when they do see the light they want to find another church! ;0)

But as pets don't go to church at all I don't see what it has to do with the price of cheese ;0)

 

[PaulB]

My dogs both died within a couple of months of each other last year, rationale tells me it is stupid to believe in ghosts but I have heard them both at various times in the house since,

But you haven't really, have you? It's a normal psychological response like when we "see" recently deceased people walking down the street and convince ourselves that a certain walk, mannerism or style favours the friend or relative who's died. Your rational is entirely correct. It IS stupid to believe in ghosts. They do not exist and that's a fact. I am also of the firm and fixed opinion that animals do not and cannot have "souls" and I believe it is mad to think they do.

 

[Dayvo]

But you haven't really, have you? It's a normal psychological response like when we "see" recently deceased people walking down the street and convince ourselves that a certain walk, mannerism or style favours the friend or relative who's died. Your rational is entirely correct. It IS stupid to believe in ghosts. They do not exist and that's a fact. I am also of the firm and fixed opinion that animals do not and cannot have "souls" and I believe it is mad to think they do.

Are you some kind of self-elected expert on others' beliefs and feelings?

That's your opinion, but don't tell Catrike his opinion is wrong!

Your patronising and condescending manner knows no limits!

 

[PaulB]

Are you some kind of self-elected expert on others' beliefs and feelings?

That's your opinion, but don't tell Catrike his opinion is wrong!

Your patronising and condescending manner knows no limits!

Yes. Thank you.

 

[Andy in Sig]

But you haven't really, have you? It's a normal psychological response like when we "see" recently deceased people walking down the street and convince ourselves that a certain walk, mannerism or style favours the friend or relative who's died. Your rational is entirely correct. It IS stupid to believe in ghosts. They do not exist and that's a fact. I am also of the firm and fixed opinion that animals do not and cannot have "souls" and I believe it is mad to think they do.

Prove your claimed fact.