Please don't wear helmets*!!

Discussion in 'Helmet Discussions' started by Tin Pot, 27 Jul 2015.

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  1. Tin Pot

    Tin Pot Guru

    It perpetuates the myth that cyclists safety is in our own hands!

    Truck and car drivers will kill you and blame you. They need to know it's their behaviour that kills, not ours.

    *Please note that I neither condone nor condemn helmet wearing when cycling.
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  2. Your going to get them all started now ^_^

    I am in little doubt that a helmet will not save me if I am hit by a truck or car. I dont think that they were designed for that. I think they were designed for the minor, or not so minor, off, that we have occasionally.

    I dont think cyclists wearing or not wearing helmets, will ever influence other road users.

    I have 4 helmets and wear one occasionally. I am an adult and that is the choice I make. We should all be allowed to make those choices without other people trying to influence us.

    And I wear a viz vest as well ^_^
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  3. Profpointy

    Profpointy Guru

    There is the well known effect of "risk compensation" so its very plausible that motorists (as well as the riders) take more risk when rider is helmetted. Some academic even published a paper measuring (closer) passing distances.

    Not proven necessarily but ....
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  4. I take more risks in my baseball Cap or Buff as they were cheaper than my helmets.

    Do you think the academics actually rode the bikes? Because I would think they would already be influencing the results when they gave their briefing.

    As a test dummy. I dont find that I get given any more or less room if I wear a helmet or Buff.
  5. Mugshot

    Mugshot Guru

    I've had a couple of people say to me that they consider a fully kitted up rider to be more experienced and able than a cyclist in everyday clothing, how that pans out across the population I don't know but it seems to me that the perception of a cyclists ability is affected by what they are wearing, how that relates to other road users actions around then, well I don't know that either, I'm not sure how much we can take from the close pass experiments.
  6. david k

    david k Hi

    North West
    It's always the behaviour of car and truck drivers that kills? Is that conducive to a civil approach to road sharing?
  7. But...just not proven
  8. Profpointy

    Profpointy Guru

    but highly plausible as I understand "risk compensation" is pretty much proven, and the Bristol bloke's paper adds credence albeit not proof
  9. MontyVeda

    MontyVeda a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll

    I think they were designed as a product for cyclists to buy. If they're were designed as genuine piece of PPE, they'd be designed to withstand far greater impacts.
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  10. Pretty much...but not.
  11. ufkacbln

    ufkacbln Guest

    An old friend of mine was a rather lovely young lady

    She used to reckon that the best safety clothing was a short skirt

    Drivers use to slow down , give more room and pass more slowly

    When I tried it ..... It did'nt work
  12. summerdays

    summerdays Cycling in the sun Moderator

    Or a low top!
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  13. ufkacbln

    ufkacbln Guest

    Perhaps it is the beard ...

    But that didn't work for me either
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  14. Dan B

    Dan B Disengaged member

    When did you last hear of a collision between two cyclists or two pedestrians that resulted in death?
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  15. david k

    david k Hi

    North West
    Not sure I ever have, but not sure what that has to do with the original question?

    Is it always the truck or car drivers fault?
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