Position of lights, and flashing or not

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akb

Veteran
Plenty of walkers carry some form of light. Is two white lights coming towards you always a car?

I think you missed my point. My point was reference flashing white front lights.

As a regular dog walker, I do have a light; but having it flashing would be pretty pointless in pitch black.
 

T.M.H.N.E.T

Rainbows aren't just for world champions
Location
Northern Ireland
I think you missed my point. My point was reference flashing white front lights.

As a regular dog walker, I do have a light; but having it flashing would be pretty pointless in pitch black.
It makes little difference if the light is flashing or steady.
 

Crankarm

Guru
Location
Nr Cambridge
Plenty of walkers carry some form of light. Is two white lights coming towards you always a car?

Nope, it could be two cars, one over taking the other or a motorbike over taking said same car or a motorbike in front of a car. There are quite a few permutations. There are that many cars with only one headlight working, trying to determine what is actually in front coming toward you can be very challenging.

All flashing lights front or rear unless emergency lights should be banned.
 

T.M.H.N.E.T

Rainbows aren't just for world champions
Location
Northern Ireland
Nope, it could be two cars, one over taking the other or a motorbike over taking said same car or a motorbike in front of a car. There are quite a few permutations. There are that many cars with only one headlight working, trying to determine what is actually in front coming toward you can be very challenging.

All flashing lights front or rear unless emergency lights should be banned.
Precisely why "handlebar height lights are always cyclists" is a pretty stupid method of working out what is coming towards you.
 

akb

Veteran
It makes little difference if the light is flashing or steady.

I'm still struggling to understand what you are getting at.

The point I was trying to make is that flashing front lights are related to a cyclist. Which can surely only be a good thing I motorists ate looking out for the front flasher.
 

potsy

Rambler
Location
My Armchair
Flashing only front light screams cyclist, not always a good thing as you will get people taking a chance pulling out of side streets, thinking they will have plenty of time.
Solid bright light and they will think twice, by the time they realise you are a bicycle and not a scooter/motorbike it's then too late to pull out :thumbsup:
 

T.M.H.N.E.T

Rainbows aren't just for world champions
Location
Northern Ireland
Nice way of taking my comment out of context. Maybe you should re-read my initial posting to make the context clear.
I did.
I believe rear lights always be flashing as this will always mean a cyclist.
Doesnt this theory apply to the front light aswell? IME, a flashing white light at 'handlebar' height is always a cyclist.
No it can't possibly be 100% true 100% of the time.

When was the last time you saw a vehicle with a front flashing light?
The last time I rode at night in fact.
 

Svendo

Guru
Location
Walsden
When was the last time you saw a vehicle with a front flashing light?
Other than a bicycle? a car or motorbike approaching from behind railings gives a flashing light. Point is drivers can make decisions based on very quick glances, possibly less than a full cycle of flashing. Interpreting a flashing light is harder than a constant light, especially with reference to location and speed. So I think the optimum after dark is a flashing and a solid light, with the solid light brighter than the flashing. I've recently seen some groups of cyclists all with flashing magicshine type lights, and no constant lights. I found it very hard to identify them as cyclists (and I was on my bike at the time) due to the multiple moving flashes, and then to tell it's a group. I also find the really bright flashes distracting, like car headlights with bad aim or those really bright sidelights you seem to get now-a-days. I have a hope1 on flash and a T6 torch on low, which I reckon is pretty good when I've tested it by parking the bike and having a look from down the road. If I'm on a darker stretch I've plenty of spare brightness to see by available.
 

gavintc

Guru
Location
Southsea
I switch my front light from steady white to flashing white when I leave the country roads and enter the urban area. In my experience, the flashing front white light (in the city) makes you much less likely to get pulled out in front of.
 
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