Pro cycling “has been failed structurally and commercially”

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kingrollo

Legendary Member
Not sure if I completely agree.

You certainly need to spend, to compete at a good standard. But when does "sport" start.

Riding a sportive? A huge variety of bikes are used.

Time trials? I was riding a 30yr old track frame and fixed gear on one of my "comeback" phases. And returned some good times.
"Road bike" categories are now in most time trial events.

There are even Brompton races!

I thought alu bikes were the default for crits ?
 

the_mikey

Legendary Member
Getting away for a moment from the CC obsession with the price of the most expensive bikes and the fact that it's a bad thing.

I read that report. Well, sort of. I had to skim a lot It is unbelievably badly written and poorly structured. I'm really gobsmacked that they can release such a dreadful document.

Their fundamental beef is that the calendar is a bit of a buggers muddle, which is pretty true. It's a mishmash of the truly great, the generally good and the things that no one cares about. Individual riders' calendars are entirely random. Could it be improved? Undoubtedly. Does this document have a cogently argued alternative? No. Every now and again they come up with a sensible idea but they never have any reasoned argument.

It reads like the manifesto of an extremely earnest political party that knows that it doesn't have a hope in hell of gaining power so they can say what they want. "If elected we will clear the streets of crime using flocks of well trained weasels".

By the way I saw a bike for sale the other day that cost several thousand pounds! Wot a liberty.



The problem with this document is it fails to acknowledge their sport relies entirely on the goodwill and recognition from government of the countries, towns and regions where racing is held, it relies on acceptance from the people who live there, it relies on support from business and services who operate in those areas, it relies on race organisers, none of it relies on Rapha, and the UCI doesn't have much of a handle to influence the governments of the world to make racing better, even the Tour of Britain is restricted largely because of conditions imposed by the police and government, it could be a better race but it won't be better without commitment from the authorities to make it a plan to improve the quality of the racing by enabling road closures and doing what's needed to secure world tour status for example. Having a gripe with the UCI achieves very little.
 

Flite

Active Member
What are your opinions on the leaked UCI document suggesting cutting men's GTs to 16 days, budget caps, team sizes etc?
(and no suggestion of increasing the length of women's GTS)
 

DCLane

Found in the Yorkshire hills ...
Picnic Post NL is considering voluntary relegation - https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...-considers-dropping-to-proteam-ranks-for-2027

Given they're currently ranked 28th and only the top 30 teams get World Tour invites it's a risk. But they've been a disaster this year, although some riders have been injured. The likes of Max Poole may choose to move teams if they are relegated and sponsors may also jump.
 

M.R.M

Well-Known Member
What are your opinions on the leaked UCI document suggesting cutting men's GTs to 16 days, budget caps, team sizes etc?
(and no suggestion of increasing the length of women's GTS)
Will never happen. Cycling is very conservative and additionally I'd wager most fans would consider that a lessening of the achievement of winning a GT, so if even the fans are not truly for it, why would anyone seriously consider it?

I think the idea has some merit, if you add some type of large financial incentive to make the top riders try and win all 3 GT's every year. But I'm also quite fine with watching 9 weeks of GT's as well as the classics every year.
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
Will never happen. Cycling is very conservative and additionally I'd wager most fans would consider that a lessening of the achievement of winning a GT, so if even the fans are not truly for it, why would anyone seriously consider it?
I don't think it'll happen, but never say never, eh? 😉

The grand tours didn't all used to be 21 stages for the men and some chemical assistance probably helped them to be that length and more entertaining... until we found out what was being risked.
 

Pross

Guru
Will never happen. Cycling is very conservative and additionally I'd wager most fans would consider that a lessening of the achievement of winning a GT, so if even the fans are not truly for it, why would anyone seriously consider it?

I think the idea has some merit, if you add some type of large financial incentive to make the top riders try and win all 3 GT's every year. But I'm also quite fine with watching 9 weeks of GT's as well as the classics every year.

Because it's the UCI?
 

Dogtrousers

Lefty tighty. Get it righty.
If you had to invent pro cycling now you'd be more likely to come up with 16 day tours than 21 day tours, because of the increased likelihood that a top rider could do all three and the chance of a better structured calendar.

The main problem I see is backward compatibility: GTs wouldn't really be comparable year-on-year. But are they anyway? GTs have changed massively over the years.

Of course there's also going to be knee-jerk opposition to anything different, and opposition from ASO. who would never want the preeminence of their flagship product threatened.
 

wakemalcolm

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The cycling podcast had a decent scratch around this the other day.

One of the reasons put forward for not going shorter was that this didn't lend itself to foreign grand departs which are needed to keep the show afloat. I'm not sure that argument totally held water but surely each marginal day must add revenue to offset the fixed costs of the event.
 

TakeTheHighRoad

Senior Member
The biggest bug bear I have is the fact that Paris-Nice and Tirrenno overlap (meaning I inevitably ignore the Italian race) and that Basque Country is right in the middle of the Classics, which are my favourite races of the year
 
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