Pubs do any of you still use them?

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Beebo

Firm and Fruity
Location
Hexleybeef
We neeed a whole new thread for flat roof pubs.
Here's one I cycle past at least once a week.
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We neeed a whole new thread for flat roof pubs.
Here's one I cycle past at least once a week.
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That'll be full of perfidious characters...
 

Ganymede

Veteran
Location
Rural Kent
Myth: It will be bad for pubs
Pro smoking groups claimed that the smokefree legislation would be bad for business and would lead to many pubs closing down. The evidence to date from notable pub groups is that the smoking ban has had 'little impact' upon their sales. Capital Pubs announced profits and that the 'smoking ban has had no material impact on business'. Greene King said like-for-like sales were up by 2% in managed houses and 1% in tenanted pubs. Punch Tavern shares rose by 2.3% and announced the smoking ban as having 'little impact upon sales'. Mitchells & Butler announced that the smoking ban has not affected UK sales with like-for-like sales increasing by 2.6 per cent. Furthermore a recent YouGov survey commissioned by ASH found that 20% of non-smokers reported that they visited pubs more often since the smoking ban. Source of the claim: Freedom2choose:
http://www.freedom2choose.org.uk/



I think the recession in 2008 did for more pubs than the smoking ban , and if managed properly a good pub will attract custom.
What's really doing for pubs are the "Pubcos" which are essentially financial groups who have leveraged as much cash out of their pubs as they can (private equity) and are now leeching on the poor landlords and ladies. The rents are sky-high and they have to buy all their drinks from the pubco that owns them. It's horrible really. That's also why a lot of the smaller urban pubs are now Tesco Metros etc, because the profit margins had become so (intentionally) squeezed that the only way for the pubco to make money from them was to run them down, "prove" that they'd failed and get planning permission to sell them off for housing. A total disgrace.

Our lad gets by because he's the only pub in the centre of the village, he works very hard, knows his trade and keeps in with the village (helps out at functions, lends the spare room for events etc), and serves decent food. We'd be lost if our pub went, it's one of the great hubs of the community.

It also often has quite a lot of cyclists outside it at weekends!
 

nickyboy

Norven Mankey
I think the recession in 2008 did for more pubs than the smoking ban , and if managed properly a good pub will attract custom.

Nail. Head. Pubs, like any business, will attract custom if well run. Unfortunately pubs seem to attract a lot of people to run them who have little or no business acumen. Perhaps they are looking for a lifestyle business without realising that it's hard work and it is easy to run a pub badly, difficult to run it well.
 

cd365

Guru
Location
Coventry, uk
I tend to go to the pub around 3 times a week. Thursday & Friday night and a Saturday afternoon into the night or just the Saturday night. Nothing mental anymore though
 

Ganymede

Veteran
Location
Rural Kent
Hasn't there just been a vote in the House of Commons to put a stop to that?
Yes indeed - though I'm not holding my breath as to the actual effect. It would be good if it worked as there would then be an incentive to put the wholesale price of drinks down, ie competition at a level which has just been concerned with keeping prices high.
 

simon.r

Person
Location
Nottingham
I like pubs:cheers:

Country pubs, city centre pubs, estate pubs...all good. Some better than others, but all entertaining in their individual ways.
 
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