Punched a car this evening....

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chap

Veteran
Location
London, GB
Panter said:
I wish I was as good a person as some on here but I'm not. I guess chap is correct, I am a product of my upbringing and social class and I'm sorry to have soiled your World with my drivel (although I was at least taught to read correctly, it was the boot I hit and not the bonnet :cry:.)

Oh that is quite alright, after all we can't all be blessed with the art of a semi-decent retort.

As for your social class, that has little to do with it, it's more your lack of self-control. It can cloud ones thinking, leading them to act rashly, shun responsibility, and jump to wild conclusions. :laugh:
 

Cubist

Still wavin'
Location
Ovver 'thill
ShinSplint said:
St Huck,

Please.. get a grip. The tw@t in the beemer needs to be told. Maybe the fact that Panter acted in such a way, made him realise the potential consequences if he was to try it again.

If people choose to ignore behaviour like that, it will continue to happen. Simples.
Just turn this one around a bit. Let's say that Panter did manage to dent the guy's car. At a rough guess it's going to take a couple of hundred quid to sort out.

Now, you scare me in your car and I decide to act out my revenge by burgling your house. I'll nick your TV so you are a couple of hundred quid down on the deal. No amount of "But my family was nearly injured by his driving" would justify my actions now would it?

The bottom line is this. The guy drove like a twat. No one was actually hurt. OP reacted by causing criminal damage to the guy's car. Not a good reaction. It is understandable, but inexcusable.
 

skudupnorth

Cycling Skoda lover
Panter said:
Thanks all, I wished I hadn't done it afterwards.
Trouble is, assault on the family, heat of the moment and all that.
I really must learn to calm down....

You will do anything to protect your family,i would.Just a shame there were no Police or cctv watching the cock !
 

Cubist

Still wavin'
Location
Ovver 'thill
skudupnorth said:
You will do anything to protect your family,i would.Just a shame there were no Police or cctv watching the cock !
But Panter didn't do it to protect his family did he? He did it after the incident, in order to exact revenge or punish him. It's a f*cking good job there weren't any police around, because "The car scared me and my family " explanation will mitigate, but will not defend his actions.
 

rusky

CC Addict
Location
Hove
Cubist said:
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Now, you scare me in your car and I decide to act out my revenge by burgling your house. I'll nick your TV so you are a couple of hundred quid down on the deal. No amount of "But my family was nearly injured by his driving" would justify my actions now would it?
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You've never had your house burgled have you? It's not even close to a parallel.
 

Wigsie

Nincompoop
Location
Kent
rusky said:
You've never had your house burgled have you? It's not even close to a parallel.

I think the point our resident fed is making is that it may have scared his family and been a stupid action but take the emotion out of the equation and causing a few hundred pounds of damage to someone elses property in 'revenge' is against the law just like stealing a few hundred pounds worth of kit.
 

Cubist

Still wavin'
Location
Ovver 'thill
rusky said:
You've never had your house burgled have you? It's not even close to a parallel.
If it troubles you, then change the parallel to "lifting your wallet with £200 quid in it. "

I was trying to point out that both are criminal acts leaving the driver out of pocket by a given amount.

Yes, I understand all about the trauma of being burgled, and I agree it was a poor parallel. :cry:
 

rusky

CC Addict
Location
Hove
I agree that Panter's reaction was wrong but if nothing's done what stops the moton repeating his actions? It only takes an outside influence or bad judgement & he will hit someone.

If Panter had reported it to the police, it wouldn't go anywhere & that's the main problem. People act lie twats because they know they will get away with it.

People get fed up with the law not working so more & more people feel that the only action is reaction.
 

Cubist

Still wavin'
Location
Ovver 'thill
rusky said:
I agree that Panter's reaction was wrong but if nothing's done what stops the moton repeating his actions? It only takes an outside influence or bad judgement & he will hit someone.

If Panter had reported it to the police, it wouldn't go anywhere & that's the main problem. People act lie twats because they know they will get away with it.

People get fed up with the law not working so more & more people feel that the only action is reaction.
I despair along with you rusky. But there is a general and creeping degeneration of all that is decent that surrounds all of us. No one likes to be challenged, every slight must be met with violence. Even on this hallowed and generally good-tempered forum we see people desperately trying to educate others.

How many times do we read threads with camera footage or without, all recounting things cyclists have said to try and get drivers to change the way they drive? How effective do we think it will be trying to reason with them? Realistically I would reckon a negligible percentage will actually drive away from the encounter with a "Oh, in that case I'll go and read the Highway Code, or Cyclecraft, and I am cured forever of being an utter self-gratification artist!"

I also understand your reasoning behind "the police won't do anything" or whatever. The law does work, but it tends to be selective, and never seems to work well for posters on internet forums!
 

rusky

CC Addict
Location
Hove
TBH, I've never tried to (re-?)educate bad drivers, it's a waste of breath & not worth the risk.
 
OP
OP
Panter

Panter

Just call me Chris...
Just to make it clear, I did NOT hit the car in revenge, I Hit it because I wanted him to stop.

EDIT: Oh, and the chances of me causing any damage are remote.
I had no ring on, and I hit it with my fist on the edge of the boot as it skimmed past me.
To hit a BMW hard enough to dent it with my fist I imagine I would have broken my hand.
Still doesn't make it right, but I'm just saying.
 

chap

Veteran
Location
London, GB
Panter said:
Just to make it clear, I did NOT hit the car in revenge, I Hit it because I wanted him to stop.

EDIT: Oh, and the chances of me causing any damage are remote.
I had no ring on, and I hit it with my fist on the edge of the boot as it skimmed past me.
To hit a BMW hard enough to dent it with my fist I imagine I would have broken my hand.
Still doesn't make it right, but I'm just saying.

Sorry, you hit the car's boot because you wanted him to stop? This makes less sense than certain political parties manifestos.

Eitherway, it really is not that big a deal (the car punching), the good news is that your family are fine. We can all play arm-chair critic/judge but in the end if somebody is spooked - especially where the welfare of their family is at risk - then they probably would react in some fashion, be it violent or otherwise.

What we can all learn from this is to show consideration to others, be less quick to judge, not to brag, and... to try and muster a little more self-control.

Take care of yourselves, and each other.
 
Panter reacted, it doesn't have to make sense, I'm sure he'll react differently next time. It seems a lot of people on this forum have never had a 'moment'.
 
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