Range Rover and phone...

[Arjimlad]

That driver sounds like an arrogant dangerous tool of the first order. I have come across similar drivers in all manner of vehicles. Glad you were not injured !

Well done for not opening the rear passenger door before cycling off. That would really have interrupted his phone call..

PS my next car will probably be a 4x4, I only do 3,000 miles per year and would use it's off-roadiness off-road on certain tracks and trails I currently have to walk along lugging heavy kit!

 

[ufkacbln]

Again where Helmet Cameras are useful.

Had a muppet in a 4x4 cut me up at a chicane and as above stopped at lights, tapped on the window and asked what his rush was......

He replied that I shouldn' have been in his f*&^%$%^ way and he would make apoint of knocking me off next time I did so

Tapped helmet camera and thanked him for the evidence I could now take to the Police... his face was a picture.

I would have also loved to have been a fly on the wall a few days later when a Police Car pulled up outside his door and two Constables discussed his driving and attitude

 

[Dave 123]

Personally speaking I'd love a Range Rover, not that awful looking new model, but either a proper one (1970-1995), or a L322 (the 3rd generation), with the TDV8
It'd top off my Land Rover owning career!!!

Don't believe I'm a tosser, never even been called one by any drunken patients either!!!


He must've been a numpty anyway, BlueTooth is standard on all models since at least 2005!!!

Be careful Richard, it's a slippery slope, even for 4x4......

 

[Linford]

Get idiots on the road full stop. Being an idiot doesn't limit them to a specific vehicle type...only an idiot would paint the whole lot with a broad brush....it is a bit like saying all cyclists rlj or pavement cycle

 

[Moodyman]

In the depths of the 2009 prolonged winter, I was at the roadside adjusting my front mech. It was about 8pm on a country road. A Range Rover driver pulled up, asked if I was ok and offered to chuck the bike in his boot and take me home.

Yesterday, further down the same stretch of road, a bloke in his Nissan pick up offered to do the same when I was adjusting my newly installed Ergon grips.

I'm 6ft 2 and heavily built. On both occasions I was wearing a balaclava. Although I declined both offers, I was privately in tears at the goodness of other human beings.

So please...stop this churlish 4x4 generalisations.

 

[Deleted member 26715]

I would have also loved to have been a fly on the wall a few days later when a Police Car pulled up outside his door and two Constables discussed his driving and attitude

Were you stalking him so you know this as fact? maybe that's why he tried to knock you off.

Alan...

 

[screenman]

ALL cyclist jump red lights, ALL cyclist ride fast on the pavement, ALL cyclist scare horses, ALL cyclist ride in black with no lights at nights, ALL cyclist nick other people bikes at sportive events. I just thought I would add to some of the annoying sweeping statements.

 

[Linford]

Quite. There are generalizations and there are observable corelations

And there are bumptious tossers making sweeping statements based on little more than prejudice and jealousy....

 

[ufkacbln]

Were you stalking him so you know this as fact? maybe that's why he tried to knock you off.

Alan...

Nope - I know the local Beat Bobby who updated me. They often make a point of driving up in a marked car to make the visit obvious.

 

[MattyKo]

I do think that the argument has moved forward - all activities in a moving vehicle are a distraction.

Holding a telephone conversation whilst driving shows little regard for the mechanics that is propelling them and, others within the vicinity of their vehicle.

As an all terrain luxury vehicle which entered the market place in 1970 - exponential growth car ownership has been seen since this period, from 100 million worldwide to 34 million in the UK alone, that vicinity should be considered as including all individual within a 360 degree area measured as per the Highway Code agreed stopping distance.

Just because technology permits does not paradoxically mean that its use results in positive outcomes. The Cycle is a traction mechanically propelled vehicle, a Range Rover is a very recent modification of these mechanics. Which in itself can have very negative consequences, so why are we adding even more recent accessories. Astonished to find DVD screens in vehicles, it did become a very fashion thing to BLING up your vehicle to the max.

 

[Slaav]

In my experience people who drive these stupid 4x4s are appalling drivers who couldn't care less about anyone else on the road.

I actually have quite a problem with this post and attitude.
If you are prepared to judge as quickly, what hope do decent cyclists have on our roads?

Now whilst I also have had issues with (here we go) typically Mummies driving Tristan and Seb to school (badly) in 4X4s, I have also seen the same standard of driving in many other cars.

There are some of us that drive 4X4s, ride cycles and motorbikes! I would like to think that I use each conveyance in a polite and decent manner whilst at times making progress - at others, drive a bit akin to 'Miss Daisy' - but at all times courteously!

My choice of steed has nothing to do with the way I drive! And I really do take some offence with the sweeping generalisation in your post! And before you ask, every single winter (pretty much) we would be unable to get in and out to our house without a 4X4! Sometimes, we would be unable to get in and out of our valley.... (And for info only, it is our 2nd 4X4 and we have done around 145K miles in this one - so pretty 'green' in my view also )

We probably won't be able to change your (IMO) ignorant and harsh generalisation and attitude but I am happy to try!

 

[glenn forger]

And I really do take some offence with the sweeping generalisation in your post!

Are you saying my direct personal experience is incorrect? Over 3000 miles a year, that's my direct experience. Statistics demonstrate drivers of these vehicles break the law more often

 

[Spinney]

Are you saying my direct personal experience is incorrect? Over 3000 miles a year, that's my direct experience. Statistics demonstrate drivers of these vehicles break the law more often

Are you really saying that every single 4x4 that you have encountered on the roads has been driven dangerously/inconsiderately? Every one? Even ones that you may have passed on the motorway and had no direct interaction with?

If not, then your statement about your 'direct personal experience' is still a generalisation.

'Breaking the law more often' is not the same as 'are all tossers/other insult of choice'

 

[glenn forger]

Are you really saying that every single 4x4 that you have encountered on the roads has been driven dangerously/inconsiderately?

No.

 

[Spinney]

No.

So your statements are generalisations then. Which I asked people not to do (as a moderator).