Moon bunny
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- Basking in my own brilliance.
I hope all RAF aircrew’s “working at heights” training is up to date.
Red Arrows to Fly Foreign Built / Designed Aircraft?
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I hope all RAF aircrew’s “working at heights” training is up to date.
Jameshow
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Hover Fly
He, him, his
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- Besides the lake, beneath the trees
Go the whole hog and get a few English Electric Lightnings together.
Jameshow
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Would they make it from city airport to buck palace before running out of fuel?!🤣
The UK itself doesn't make or do any big projects anymore.
My friend lives directly next to a new solar farm being installed. He tells me the company installing it is Greek, virtually all the staff are foreign, all the kit is Chinese, solar panels, transformers etc.
Why couldn't a British company do that, even if they had to source the materials from abroad.
Better still we(UK) could have made the products too, there are several solar panel makers in the UK.
No profits for UK companies or work for British people
My friend lives directly next to a new solar farm being installed. He tells me the company installing it is Greek, virtually all the staff are foreign, all the kit is Chinese, solar panels, transformers etc.
Why couldn't a British company do that, even if they had to source the materials from abroad.
Better still we(UK) could have made the products too, there are several solar panel makers in the UK.
No profits for UK companies or work for British people
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Illaveago
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- Chippenham,Wiltshire.
Yes. That is the problem of buying off the shelf. It might seem cheap but you will lose jobs and skills in doing so.
dicko
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- Derbyshire
Jameshow
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Hawker hunter
Time Waster
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I beg to differ. We build all our new frigates and nuclear submarines and always have. If you do not think they class as big projects you do not know what you are talking about. We also have RR who are heavily into nuclear in the UK, plus other UK based companies or UK based manufacturing sites. There used to be a lot of siemens built wind turbines in the NE England manufacturing sites too.
This idea is totally wrong but I can understand when we are buying F35s (also have BAES as a major partner in the design and build of them). Or our politicians and civil servants mess up HS2 (started by not carrying on with the HS1 team who apparently carried out that rather large project on time and to budget or under it but the panel of civil service mandarins advising the government told them the HS1 team did not have enough experience of large projects but you could continue to changing the goal posts last minute as well).
Or it does not have to be big neither as we provide niche products that other nations need but cannot get elsewhere to the same quality that is needed. Then there is the fact that we provide knowledge services worldwide, such as having some of the most respected architects and engineers who design and even manage the build of huge infrastructure overseas. This is all good things that is being written off by that statement.
We simply do not promote the good only the bad, especially a lot of people on here.
Jameshow
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Time Waster
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Not saying even if I knew and I doubt you will find that information in a publicly accessible location. TBH that is not my scene, not since I was 16 and had a summer job moving harrier hatch covers around the site. That got me a good road bike at the end of the summer!!!!
I did hear that when the F35 was being developed it was competing against a rival company's plane (Boeing IIRC which is a good thing it did not win the contest now). However both competing companies used BAES for the control systems, radar and all the other avionics systems needed. IIRC it was about a third of the cost but I cannot confirm that and it could be more or less. Needless to say it was something that USA deemed that they did not have the capability. It would have taken too long to develop it.
figbat
Former slippery scientist
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- South Oxfordshire, UK
Before the Red Arrows there were a number of squadron-based display team: the Firebirds (Lightnings), Red Pelican (Jet Provosts), the Yellowjacks (Gnats) etc.
The Red Arrows brought it all into one, service-wide, official team. By the way, you can thank the French for the name - the Black Arrows name came from the French dubbing them «Les Flèches Noires» - the later Red Arrows were named for their colour and kept the “arrows” moniker.
