RidewithGPS - plans and fees

[matticus]

I think I'm paying a bit much for this service:
- $9.99 seems a lot.
- https://ridewithgps.com/pricing says $6.67/month [EDIT: that's for "Premium" it also lists a "Basic" plan for a bit less], and
- I find cycle.travel a much better routing service*
- we have a club account for planning/posting the club rides

Not really sure how I got to this situation...


Discuss!

*TBF the rwgps routing interface isn't toooo bad. Beats google, and routes seem better than my wahoo/stravanauts seem to use!

 

[HLaB]

Never paid for it myself. I can't see what Id get from it other than direct sync and I can do that manually in seconds, and ride analysis I get from elsewhere.

 

[PeteXXX]

I can create routes on the free RWGPS & it syncs with Wahoo, too.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Never paid for it myself. I can't see what Id get from it other than direct sync and I can do that manually in seconds, and ride analysis I get from elsewhere.

Paid accounts you can split routes, add POI, and export etc. you can also load up multiple routes to compare variations. Plus add custom cues for your gps to alert. Though you can also do that if you are a route manager on a club account.

 

[chriswoody]

I pay yearly for a premium subscription for RWGPS and find that to be really good value for what I use it for.

I do use cycle.travel and find it fantastic for suggesting routes, far better than RWGPS, however, I find the mapping software terrible to use.

With RWGPS I can sit down and create routes really easily, I generally flip between map layers to check out features. I can reverse routes or if I've imported a large route I can split it down into manageable daily chunks. I can add Points of interest like water refill points, potential campsites etc and then these will pop up on my Garmin whilst I'm riding. Heat Maps are also really useful as well as other overlays, in general the planning software is really comprehensive and easy to use.

Aside from the planning aspect, they also have a gear section where you can add several different bikes. Then you log when you've performed maintenance like replacing the chain, and it will then automatically track how far you've travelled since that point. It's really simple and a good way to track how long various components have lasted. I know Garmin have a gear feature on their website but it's really crude and only allows you to have one bike, whereas RWGPS will track multiple bikes for you.

I use it as my primary route planning tool as well as tracking my cycling history and even if the premium subscription didn't unlock certain features, I would still pay them for the amount of use I get out of the site.

 

[nogoodnamesleft]

I can add Points of interest like water refill points, potential campsites etc and then these will pop up on my Garmin whilst I'm riding.

You can also do this on cycle.travel. I fid it one year cycling the Dutch Waterline route where LF have a number of specific points sling the route they need you to take photos at.

Can't remember how but there is a cycle.travel forum thread explaining how.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

I know Garmin have a gear feature on their website but it's really crude and only allows you to have one bike

Nope, does allow multiple bikes. Plus you can create collections for all the items used on a particular bike.

 

[PaulSB]

I think I'm paying a bit much for this service:
- $9.99 seems a lot.
- https://ridewithgps.com/pricing says $6.67/month, and
- I find cycle.travel a much better routing service*
- we have a club account for planning/posting the club rides

Not really sure how I got to this situation...


Discuss!

*TBF the rwgps routing interface isn't toooo bad. Beats google, and routes seem better than my wahoo/stravanauts seem to use!

If you're paying $9.99 and the fee is$6.67 (£5.00), which it is, surely it's down to you to resolve?

From the little I know of cycle.travel I believe there's a monthly supporter fee of £3.00 for "premium" features, not much difference really. I suspect RWGPS offers more for the extra couple of quid.

Planning services are a bit Marmite really, we all have our preferences. Personally I enjoy RWGPS, find Komoot excellent for grabbing routes in areas I don't know and then I wouldn't use either Garmin or Strava.

 

[nogoodnamesleft]

From the little I know of cycle.travel I believe there's a monthly supporter fee of £3.00 for "premium" features

it's much more optional than a "fee". The premium features are actually fairly minor eg IGN and a few other format maps and a few additional features in the app eg tappable icons to popup POI details, scetch mode.
https://cycle.travel/help/supporter

I've been a supporter for ages and not yet used any of these features yet used it daily on tour each evening to plan tomorrow's route for tours lasting a couple of months. I certainly get full functionality without using premium features, I'm a supporter as I appreciate the system and feel I should thus support it.

 

[Dogtrousers]

I pay for it because I've used it for years, I like it and I want it to stay around.

I've played with some of the alternatives and some are nice, but nothing is better, at least not to an extent that would make me want to change. If I was starting from scratch now, I might choose differently. But I'm not.

If you ( @matticus ) don't think you are getting sufficient value then stop paying. Try the free version for a bit and see if you miss anything.

 

[albion]

I tried some of the recommended apps whilst in Blackpool last week. Yet it was only Google maps which knew the obscurish link paths.
Others went a mile round.

 

[chriswoody]

Nope, does allow multiple bikes. Plus you can create collections for all the items used on a particular bike.

Ok, that is genuinely a new feature. When I last tried it admittedly, about 18 months ago, it only allowed 1 bike so they must have updated it since.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Ok, that is genuinely a new feature. When I last tried it admittedly, about 18 months ago, it only allowed 1 bike so they must have updated it since.

It cannot be that new, I have had multiple bikes on Garmin Connect gear since 2016. I guess you just did not know how to add more bikes.

 

[chriswoody]

It cannot be that new, I have had multiple bikes on Garmin Connect gear since 2016. I guess you just did not know how to add more bikes.

Well there's every chance that might be so, but even now after having had a small play it seems pretty clunky and not as easy as with RWGPS. Maybe it is me but I was able to work out and use the RWGPS version much easier than Garmin's so I think I'll stick with that.

 

[matticus]

If you're paying $9.99 and the fee is$6.67 (£5.00), which it is, surely it's down to you to resolve?

Thanks.

Which plan do you have, and how much do you pay?