Road ragers should wear helmets

[winjim]

I was about to post

Gap between car and parking bay looks about half a car's width to me, so maybe 2' to 3'

Then I read mickle's post so now I shan't.

 

[Lemond]

Did look like a lot of fuss over nothing. Driver seems like a thoroughly unpleasant chap, but was there really need for the confrontation in the first place?

 

[Dan B]

The door zone aint five feet into the centre of the road and no he cant do what the fark he likes

I think you probably haven't measured it


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPA-ZcYGT94

 

[doog]

The door zone is about 5 feet.

He can do what he likes to protect his safety.

So you would presumably drive past him the same way because you thought he was in the wrong.

That road looks big enough for a safe overtake if both parties played ball, clearly the cyclist chose not too. He was looking for confrontation, could have and should have let the mpv safely pass him.

No wonder we are looked upon as a part baked bunch of lunatics by certain members of society.

 

[doog]

I think you probably haven't measured it


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPA-ZcYGT94

is that footage from the scene ?

 

[Origamist]

If thats six inches then the cyclist is five feet from his nearside (excessive). The road looks wide enough to accommodate both vehicles....what followed is an embarrassment and no Im not on anyone's side.

I'd estimate around 4 feet from elbow to the parked VW, but some parked cars are further away from the kerb (the silver Merc for example) and the cyclist's lateral position fluctuates - so he is closer at different times. However, whether it's 4 or 5 feet, the driver could still have held back for a few seconds. If he was a slightly better driver (but still poor) he could have overtaken and given the rider another foot of passing distance. As it was, his driving was inept.

The HC is quite clear that cyclists should ride beyond the arc of an opening car door. If you choose to do otherwise to facilitate motorists that's your prerogative, but I'd recommend (as does Bikeability) that you give parked and stationary vehicles a wide birth.

 

[glenn forger]

If you've got flat bars and you get doored it could catch you between your knuckles and split your hand wide open. Or, imagine getting doored and you've got Mr sweary Peugeot right up your 'arris, you'd be under his wheels.

 

[Racing roadkill]

The driver was a tool, but I've had my bars twanged round that neck of the woods, what you see in the video is chicken shyte.

 

[doog]

If you've got flat bars and you get doored it could catch you between your knuckles and split your hand wide open. Or, imagine getting doored and you've got Mr sweary Peugeot right up your 'arris, you'd be under his wheels.

yeah, never seen a 5 foot car door but just in case Im going to choose to be a bit of an arse and get some mileage out of my multiple camera set up...

 

[Origamist]

Wouldn't it be great if we had some kind of CC CSI team on permanent standby that could descend on the scene of an incident like this and plot it all out with flags on sticks, cardboard cut-outs of cyclists, life-sized papiermache models of Peugeot 405s and inflatable pigskin renditions of twunts and report back that indeed yes, or regretfully no the passing distance was plus or minus 1.5 metres (the internationally accepted minimum overtaking distance of a car passing a cyclist). And then 50% of the the contributors to threads such as this (after reading and understanding what is meant by the word 'primary') would be free to shut the fark up?

When it comes to cycle cam film I'm CC's very own Inspector Clouseau... where do I sign up?

 

[growingvegetables]

You carry out cycling proficiency at year 5 in school.

Wrong.

You MAY sit Bikeability 1, or even 2 - at the discretion of the school; last I heard, Bikeability was only available in 60% of primary schools in Leeds. Bikeability level 3 is theoretically available for secondary school students, but the figures are miniscule.

 

[Dan B]

The driver was a tool, but I've had my bars twanged round that neck of the woods, what you see in the video is chicken shyte.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo#t=0m56

(For the benefit of doog, no, this is not footage from the scene)

 

[Dan B]

When it comes to cycle cam film I'm CC's very own Inspector Clouseau... where do I sign up?

Over there -> the queue is about 18" in that direction

 

[Crandoggler]

Wrong.

You MAY sit Bikeability 1, or even 2 - at the discretion of the school; last I heard, Bikeability was only available in 60% of primary schools in Leeds. Bikeability level 3 is theoretically available for secondary school students, but the figures are miniscule.

Thanks. I'm not sure if you're trying to contest me or reinforce my statement though. Either way, it has little to no effect on the general population using a road on a bicycle. I think the man told me my tyres were a bit worn when I did mine.

 

[doog]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo#t=0m56

(For the benefit of doog, no, this is not footage from the scene)

why is it for my benefit dan ? Whats your point ?