School kids: Rant & outcome

[purplepolly]

Detentions dont bother kids now. Nor does 'On-call'(taking them out of the lesson and shoving them in a room to sit in silence and work)

Shoot them, i say.

So young and you're already complaining about the youth of today. They must really be getting bad.

 

[nigelnorris]

As a teacher myself I'd be interested to hear exactly what measures you'd like the school to put in place that will have an effect on what the kids do once they've left premises?

 

[Joe24]

So young and you're already complaining about the youth of today. They must really be getting bad.

We are complaining about the year 12s at the moment(first year of 6th form)
Moaning about the lac of milk. Go and buy some then, that's what we have to do then everyone drinks it.
Moaning about not being able to smoke in school, or smoke in the common room. We don't smoke, **** off to some little grotty place off sit to have your fag. Non of the upper 6th form smoke, just alot of the lower 6th form. First day back, one of the announcements was about smoking, saying it is not allowed on site.
Littering the common room and kitchenette, not washing up cups. We aren't your mum, clear up your own s***, if you don't like it then **** off.
Putting loud, chavvy music on. How many times does someone in a song need to go on about shooting someone, say the word "N****"

They are loud, abusive, couldn't give a toss about anything or anyone's possessions.
Still, alot will probably drop out as they cannot cope, or be kicked out.

I could take my shitter bike in last year, and even leave it unlocked in the common room and know it wouldn't go walkies. This year, it would do.

Shoot them, its the only way!

 

[Joe24]

As a teacher myself I'd be interested to hear exactly what measures you'd like the school to put in place that will have an effect on what the kids do once they've left premises?

Give them number plates so they can be identified and reported

 

[fossyant]

We've had stupid pranks from one of the schools in recent years, but it seems to have died down...running out in front of cars etc.. doesn't help when it's a landy........ fortunately I was on my bike behind that....

My estate is fairly bike tolerant, kids/adults etc..... one of the kids on our road calls my bike...'can't stop pedalling bike'...he's only 5 but is at my kid's school - he think's it's ace - he also knows the difference between that, and my other bikes........ PS I've also fixed his bike when it's been busted.....

The 'can't stop pedalling' bike has attracted a fair amount of attention though.......

 

[purplepolly]

what measures you'd like the school to put in place that will have an effect on what the kids do once they've left premises?

Measures? That's the problem isn't it, back in the eighties we didn't have measures, although occasionally someone got detention. Mr Jones the headmaster didn't need measures. It worked like this -

Mr Jones decreed that boys must wear blazers out of school.

The boys wore their blazers outside school.

 

[Deleted member 1258]

The question I would to ask is where has this urge to roar and shout at passing cyclists come from? does anybody know? I have only started to come across it in the last couple of years and its a bit of an irritating distraction. Anybody understand what they get out of it? And why do adults do it as well as kids? I can put the kids down to immaturity, but adults? strange.

 

[zophiel]

its probably the only way they knew how to communicate. The kids now are just utterly stupid as is 90% of the work they do in schools. One of my kids brought home there gcse work and it was stuff I had to do in my 3rd year. Is it so bad now that they have to cut down the levels to prove schools work???

 

[Archie]

say the word "N****"

I think that's spelt N*****.

 

[Bman]

Give them number plates so they can be identified and reported

Yeah, And pay Road Tax while there at it!

The question I would to ask is where has this urge to roar and shout at passing cyclists come from? does anybody know? I have only started to come across it in the last couple of years and its a bit of an irritating distraction. Anybody understand what they get out of it? And why do adults do it as well as kids? I can put the kids down to immaturity, but adults? strange.

This one we have been debating about a bit at work. A colleague of mine as an avid jogger. He wears lycra-esque "jogging bottoms" (?) and wonders why he get all these reactions from people. Most recently a car full of blokes slowed down to take a picture of him as he was jogging along. I on the other hand (cycle in jeans and a t-shirt) get very few (if any) reactions from these types of people.

It may not be the lycra. It may be something else. But who knows!

 

[nigelnorris]

Measures? That's the problem isn't it, back in the eighties we didn't have measures, although occasionally someone got detention. Mr Jones the headmaster didn't need measures. It worked like this -

Mr Jones decreed that boys must wear blazers out of school.

The boys wore their blazers outside school.

Hardly constructive that. It's not the school's fault or that of the staff that we no longer live in the 1980s. We can't turn round to unruly children and get them to change their ways by telling them stories about how things used to be.

 

[Crash]

I finish work at 3 and daily run the gauntlet of the school run At first it was a real pain, to the point i did get off the bike and grab one kid who swung his sports bag around in the hope of hitting me ( i could see something was up and heard someone else say "now" , so i managed to avoid it ), but it does get easier they become accustomed to the lycra clad looney and everything just settles down.

Now a new year has started it will be the newcomers to the school shouting for a few days then they realise they are standing out from the crowd and quickly they get fed up.

Bear with it. Abuse will become banter and the occasional funny remark will bring a smile to your face.

I do stress you must bear with it and leave thing go over the top of your head, the worst things about schoolkids are the parents in thier cars If it is raining they will stop at nothing to make sure their little precious doesn't get wet, and take risks with you life that is totally unacceptable. NOW those people you can argue with

 

[PBancroft]

We are complaining about the year 12s at the moment(first year of 6th form)
Moaning about the lac of milk. Go and buy some then, that's what we have to do then everyone drinks it.
Moaning about not being able to smoke in school, or smoke in the common room. We don't smoke, **** off to some little grotty place off sit to have your fag. Non of the upper 6th form smoke, just alot of the lower 6th form. First day back, one of the announcements was about smoking, saying it is not allowed on site.
Littering the common room and kitchenette, not washing up cups. We aren't your mum, clear up your own s***, if you don't like it then **** off.
Putting loud, chavvy music on. How many times does someone in a song need to go on about shooting someone, say the word "N****"

They are loud, abusive, couldn't give a toss about anything or anyone's possessions.
Still, alot will probably drop out as they cannot cope, or be kicked out.

I could take my shitter bike in last year, and even leave it unlocked in the common room and know it wouldn't go walkies. This year, it would do.

Shoot them, its the only way!

I worked in a Sixth Form college for about a year and a half. I hated that job, but anyway... In that time I saw two starts of the new year, hence two inductions of students.

The first year I thought that the lower six (Year 12) were a load of arrogant t**ts who had a lot of growing up to do. I was working in a library (bad idea) and barely a one of them gave a toss about those trying to knuckle down for their exams, or trying to get coursework done. They'd shout, swear, chuck stuff at people working, leave half eaten food at desks and walk off (past several bins) and generally left the place like a pigpen.

Funnily enough, when they became the upper six a lot of them suddenly realised the importance of a bit of graft and needing somewhere quiet to study. Problem was the new annoying lower six students kept getting in the way...

 

[ufkacbln]

Why should the school be responsible for the pupils' behaviour outside school?

(Consider last week's thread about the headteacher "not allowing" pupils to cycle to school before replying...)

We had a "troubled school" and part of the solution was to establish a code of conduct while in uniform. Solved many of the local problems and issues.

 

[XmisterIS]

I think a big part of the problem today is that the discipline is ineffective.

In my day, punishments were usually tedious or arduous.

For example, I was once caught smoking (yes, behind the bike shed! Lol!) - So I was given a big box of mixed resistors from the Electronics department and I had to sort them by resistance. Took me 3 hours!

Alternatively, children would be sent on a run to the car park in the village 7 miles away, whereupon they had to get a ticket from the car park ticket machine showing their time of arrival. If they did not complete the run in time, they had to do it again the following day.

We also had CCF (combined cadet force), which used to administer army-style beastings to miscreants.

Such discipline, if brought back, would quickly restore law and order in schools.