Should have also said that I have the 505's on the commuter, which is actually a drop bar CX bike, but I prefer riding it with MTB shoes and recessed cleats
I use Shimano MT42, which are very good. and not too expensive. With overshoes they are warm for winter commuting. I normally wear size 42 but most folk advise going one size up for MTB shoes so I got 43 and they work well. I use 44 for road shoes.
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