Shimano release new Dura Ace and Ultegra 12 speed group sets

[Buck]

They join SRAM in the 12 speed arena

more details here https://road.shimano.com/uk/stories/science-of-speed

The “old” versions may reduce in price but as supplies are limited at present this may not happen?

Ive got Ultegra Di2 on one of my bikes and it is something to behold so I think any improvements may be marginal and perhaps the biggest benefit will be the smoothness of shifting as there will be smaller gaps between the different ratios.

 

[T4tomo]

well its probably one 2T gap that becomes a 1T gap, so not a lot of smoothness difference. It becomes marginally more sensitive to set up as the sprockets are fractionally closer together and it makes more money for Shimano!!

 

[Buck]

Yes I’m sure it’ll be very expensive and give bike manufacturers a reason to further increase their prices but I’d love to be proved wrong!

 

[Nebulous]

I knew they were going to 12 speed for Dura-ace. I didn't know they were doing the same with Ultegra. As someone who has ordered a new bike with Ultegra Di2 I need to think about what this means to me. Hopefully I'll be offered an upgrade path for a modest premium.

 

[Buck]

I knew they were going to 12 speed for Dura-ace. I didn't know they were doing the same with Ultegra. As someone who has ordered a new bike with Ultegra Di2 I need to think about what this means to me. Hopefully I'll be offered an upgrade path for a modest premium.

What bike have you gone for? Unless they’re already built then you would think that they would ‘naturally’ move to the new group set as I can’t imagine any bike builder would be holding much if any stock of the current model.

You‘ll love Di2 regardless of which iteration it is. Yes, it’s a luxury but it’s so nice to have and the precision and ease of use is to behold!

 

[Buck]

View: https://youtu.be/_tFHrsr1pPM

 

[Nebulous]

What bike have you gone for? Unless they’re already built then you would think that they would ‘naturally’ move to the new group set as I can’t imagine any bike builder would be holding much if any stock of the current model.

You‘ll love Di2 regardless of which iteration it is. Yes, it’s a luxury but it’s so nice to have and the precision and ease of use is to behold!

I've ordered a titanium bike from Reilly cycleworks. I have a thread about it here.

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As the main delay in building it seems to be availability of parts, particularly gearsets, I'd hope I do get the opportunity to upgrade.

 

[Buck]

Very nice. That will be a lovely bike.

 

[PaulSB]

I'm convinced. How much?

 

[Buck]

^ this looks to be the key selling point! Might have to buy one myself

 

[fossyant]

The new rear mechs are not 'lookers' are they. Blurgh.

 

[Hacienda71]

I still find 10 speed is fine. Someone I am sure will be along shortly to confirm that 7 8 9 and 11 speed is great too.

 

[Cycleops]

I think the biggest benefit might be to Shimano share holders rather than the shifting if the responses here are anything to go by to the Kings New Clothes

 

[fossyant]

I still find 10 speed is fine. Someone I am sure will be along shortly to confirm that 7 8 9 and 11 speed is great too.

Yup, now't wrong with 8 speed Dura Ace, and it's a damn sight prettier than the new stuff.

 

[fossyant]

I think the biggest benefit might be to Shimano share holders rather than the shifting if the responses here are anything to go by to the Kings New Clothes

SRAM 12 speed Eagle is a bit of a 'bugger' to set up properly - the manual wired stuff - apparently AXS is miles better (wireless electric).