Should I have my dog put down?

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Cyclist33

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[QUOTE 2282148, member: 45"]I'd be interested to know how a dog would know what's in a syringe.

If a dog can tell the difference because of the emotions of those around, then it's as I've already said.[/quote]

it might know from the looks on its owners face, or the behaviour of the vet. it might also be possible that it could smell the death in the form of the substance in the syringe. at any rate you simply dont know that the animal feels no emotion, although it seems fairly clear that you really dont. i hold it as self evident that animals experience recall of happy and unhappy experiences and have both emotions and a sense of their own history however rudimentary a human might classify it relative to their own. the slightest amount of contact time with a dog or cat should be enough to demonstrate that they can experience fear, thrill, devotion, lust etc etc. then again some humans can go a lifetime without displaying such basic animal traits so maybe its not always so easy for those people to recognise emotions in others.

anyway all that tangent aside, my message to the op is, dont be swayed by your head by default. if your heart is saying let the dog live, then you ought to listen to that too. emotion is a powerful and valid argument.
 

Cyclist33

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Get rid, yello. Having looked at the other thread I don't think the dog is suitable for you, through no fault of your own.

I am amazed at the sentimentality shown towards animals/dogs by some people on this thread. They are the type of people who would beggar themselves keeping a sick animal alive and in pain when it would more humane to put it down (not suggesting you are like this). Blimey, you British. If this was a French forum there would have been only one reply: "Shoot it".
No I am not a pet owner and won't be one in the future either.

then i suppose you have a rather limited evidence base for pronouncing on how keeping a pet makes one feel.

stu
 

Cyclist33

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[QUOTE 2282982, member: 45"]Any fool knows from the waggy tail that a dog experiences emotions. I've not said that. What I've said is that a deceased dog has no emotion, and as far as it is concerned a vet producing a syringe to put the dog down with and a vet producing a vaccination syringe are the same. The only difference that the dog may pick up is the emotion of those present. And then, it's fleeting.[/quote]

none of which you can possibly know. even the idea that dead things cannot feel is a debatable supposition although if true, must apply to humans too and by the same logic would make putting an unruly teenager to sleep, perfectly acceptable. are you saying that a fleeting emotion is not valid? what is the meaning of that?
 
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yello

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From my perspective, the thread is no longer any use to me as my decision was made clear several pages ago. From that point on, it has served only as a reminder as to what a divisive subject it is.

Many people responding appreciated my predicament and offered support and/or advice without being judgemental. I am thankful to those people.
 

Lisa21

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And it has made me realise that there are some truly horrible, uncaring and cold people on this forum. Its actually quite nasty.
 

Grayduff

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As an animal lover and an owner of an 8 year old Border Terrier i can fully empathize with yello and his problem, what i find a little disturbing is each time i log onto this forum this thread is the first i see, which as an animal lover find upsetting, i am pretty sure Mr Yello completely awash with enough information to make an informed decision ..its his choice and his choice only..ENOUGH IS ENOUGH PLEASE..:wacko:
 

Hotblack Desiato

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Pets are lucky that they can have a legal, pain-free exit... would that we could when things get painful and unpleasant.

You are so right. I have watched a parent take 6 months to die. They were quite unresponsive to us during that time and yet we continued to vist as for all we knew they might have known we were there and taken comfort from our presence. Knowing them as I obviously did, I am sure that they simply wanted the exit as soon as they reached that state.

And it has made me realise that there are some truly horrible, uncaring and cold people on this forum. Its actually quite nasty.


Sorry but I think that is very far from the truth.
 
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