Show me your Polestar.

[figbat]

We're 42 posts into thread and nobody has posted a pic of a Polestar so I can't say if it's fugly or not.

Polestar 1 (hybrid):

Polestar 2 (full EV):

 

[CXRAndy]

We're 42 posts into thread and nobody has posted a pic of a Polestar so I can't say if it's fugly or not.

https://www.google.com/search?q=pol...biw=412&bih=750&dpr=2.63#imgrc=3-4icbG7z0GCZM

 

[midlife]

Parked near one in Whitley bay, is it me or are they huge?

 

[icowden]

Wait until everyone has EVs. They can just about cope at the moment whilst EVs are a minority on the road.

Sorry that's complete rowlocks. National Grid has plenty of capacity.

https://www.nationalgrid.com/stories/journey-to-net-zero/5-myths-about-electric-vehicles-busted

The problem is that the EV industry is outrunning the renewables and renewable green power isn't as 'green' as people think.

It really isn't as simple as that. It depends on the country and how much that country is investing in infrastructure. Yes, worldwide investment in EVs is looking like it will outstrip investment in renewable energy, but in this country we are doing pretty well.

It's not magicked out of thin air - turbines and solar panels all required manufacturing from rare earth metals, plastics, steel, resins etc and transporting to their respective sites. Turbines also draw power from the National Grid when they start up. They also have a limited lifespan ie. the renewables need renewing every 25 years, or so.

Yes, but year on year improvements are made. Turbines are lasting longer, becoming more serviceable. You probably don't know this but once upon a hundred years ago when my grandma as a girl, cars were really expensive and petrol stations were few and far between. As demand grew, so did supply.

That's the way it works. Demand for ICE infrastructure will drop and demand for renewable energy and EV infrastructure is increasing. This brings reduced costs and better technology.

 

[icowden]

Parked near one in Whitley bay, is it me or are they huge?

Depends. There are 3 different Polestars. Polestar 1 is the huge 140k one. Polestar 2 is a pure EV and a medium sized car. Polestar 3 is an SUV style and isn't out yet.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

I'll stick with my 17 year old diesel - it's carbon footprint is probably far lower than a new Tesla

No, it's not.

It takes just a couple of years to pay back the embedded carbon from manufacture if you're buying a new car anyway, about four if you scrap a viable conventional car.

https://www.carbonbrief.org/factcheck-how-electric-vehicles-help-to-tackle-climate-change/

By all means argue against electric cars, but please, do so on the basis of fact.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

What abou

There isn't the capacity within the electricity generating industry to service the demand from electric cars once they become more than a niche market. They will have to build loads more power stations if everyone converts to electric. Renewable wouldn't cope with demand.
"100% of petrol is fossil fuel"
Really?
What about bio Ethanol?
What about Bio Diesel?

You think there's not enough electricity to power cars, but there is enough biofuel?

Seriously??

 

[icowden]

ANd to complete the collection, the soon to be released Polestar 3:

 

[Dirk]

You think there's not enough electricity to power cars, but there is enough biofuel?

Seriously??

I'm sure we could magic up enough bio fuel if needed - just like we will magic up all the electricity needed to run EVs

 

[cougie uk]

Yes they do all have tyres, my point being that EV’s are not clean & green, far from it, the environmental damage from the manufacture of the Li-On batteries is horrific, and charging them just puts the fumes in someone else’s backyard, not the owners, and I do realise that they use regen braking, I’ve been fixing EV’s for nearly 30 years, but regen braking is no good for a high speed slow down on the motorway for example

Exactly how much hard braking on the motorway do you do ? If it's more than once in a blue moon you need to hand your licence in.

 

[icowden]

I'm sure we could magic up enough bio fuel if needed - just like we will magic up all the electricity needed to run EVs

No magic needed. Please read the National Grid's own estimation in the link that I posted above.

 

[Dirk]

No magic needed. Please read the National Grid's own estimation in the link that I posted above.

I did.
Mandy Rice - Davies came to mind.

 

[cougie uk]

I did.
Mandy Rice - Davies came to mind.

I don't think she's in charge though.

 

[icowden]

I did.
Mandy Rice - Davies came to mind.

Eh?

 

[DRM]

Exactly how much hard braking on the motorway do you do ? If it's more than once in a blue moon you need to hand your licence in.

Me thinks you protest too much, I was referring to not how often or hard you, me or anyone else brakes, just that when you, me or anyone else brakes, the friction material scrubs off particles, that goes into the atmosphere, same with the tyres, all vehicles do it, and EV’s do have an exhaust pipe, except it’s a massive one at a power station.