Sin bin for red light jumping cyclists

[Ming the Merciless]

nope. if the light was green when you entered the ASL box

See highway code. As a driver, you should not enter that box, unless the exit is clear.

 

[mjr]

I don't jump red lights when I cycle or drive.
It's illegal, irresponsible and dangerous.

Not always illegal, not always irresponsible and often safer than waiting at the stop line for a phoney driver to run you over.

Also if a cyclist does it it just gives further ammunition to the anti cycling crowd who label all as red light jumpers anyway.

They don't need ammo, or any basis in reality, to keep on their hate campaign against less-polluting transport.

 

[SteveH80]

As a rural cyclist and have absolutely no concerns about ignoring red lights where I think it pragmatic.
Traffic lights on bridges and junctions etc I'll comply with, but if there is a half mile stretch of cones, and the road inside the cones rideable, then there I go. I'll even hop off and push the bike along a footpath if it suits me.
A terrible attitude I know...

 

[Mike_P]

As a rural cyclist and have absolutely no concerns about ignoring red lights where I think it pragmatic.
Traffic lights on bridges and junctions etc I'll comply with, but if there is a half mile stretch of cones, and the road inside the cones rideable, then there I go. I'll even hop off and push the bike along a footpath if it suits me.
A terrible attitude I know...

I have been instructed by the workers at one set of temporary lights to cycle through the coned off section

 

[Binky]

Not always illegal, not always irresponsible and often safer than waiting at the stop line for a phoney driver to run you over.


They don't need ammo, or any basis in reality, to keep on their hate campaign against less-polluting transport.

Wrong.
I suggest you check the highway code

 

[Rusty Nails]

if the light was green when you entered the ASL box, passed the first line, its perfectly permitted for you to stop in the box then because of queuing traffic, or oncoming traffic preventing you from making progress to an exit, this is not a box junction. And if the light goes red whilst you are sat in the box, you havent jumped a red light and are allowed, in fact encouraged to stay put till the next phase.

Correct. Recommended that you don't but not forbidden under HC rules. That difference between 'must' and 'should' again.

 

[Brandane]

As a rural cyclist and have absolutely no concerns about ignoring red lights where I think it pragmatic.
Traffic lights on bridges and junctions etc I'll comply with, but if there is a half mile stretch of cones, and the road inside the cones rideable, then there I go. I'll even hop off and push the bike along a footpath if it suits me.
A terrible attitude I know...

How dare you come on here and spout common sense!

 

[Binky]

As a rural cyclist and have absolutely no concerns about ignoring red lights where I think it pragmatic.
Traffic lights on bridges and junctions etc I'll comply with, but if there is a half mile stretch of cones, and the road inside the cones rideable, then there I go. I'll even hop off and push the bike along a footpath if it suits me.
A terrible attitude I know...

This though an example of temporary lights in a quiet rural area as opposed to permanent red lights in a city. Yes by law the same rules applies but I agree a modicum of common sense can be applied.

 

[Punkawallah]

This though an example of temporary lights in a quiet rural area as opposed to permanent red lights in a city. Yes by law the same rules applies but I agree a modicum of common sense can be applied.

‘Common sense’ and ‘law’ are two different things.
Common sense would say empty roads at 3am means the red light can be negotiated with caution.
Law says to do so would be a crime.

 

[Mike_P]

‘Common sense’ and ‘law’ are two different things.
Common sense would say empty roads at 3am means the red light can be negotiated with caution.
Law says to do so would be a crime.

Maybe with advanced in highway authority at quite times traffic lights could be replaced by an illuminated mini roundabout.
Separately local social media showed some idiots believe speed limits do not apply after 9pm

 

[Binky]

‘Common sense’ and ‘law’ are two different things.
Common sense would say empty roads at 3am means the red light can be negotiated with caution.
Law says to do so would be a crime.

Yep. What's interesting though is some seem to think it's not illegal to jump a red light.
Have to wonder, do those who do it on a bike also do it in a car.

 

[Alex321]

See highway code. As a driver, you should not enter that box, unless the exit is clear.

Notice the wording. "should" not "must".

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Notice the wording. "should" not "must".

Well done.

 

[Alex321]

Well done.

Well you were the one insisting (wrongly) that if they are in that box, they must have jumped a red light.

Jumoing a red light is illegal.

Being in that box because of queueing traffic isn't. Spot the difference.