Ming the Merciless
There is no mercy
- Location
- Inside my skull
I know sweet nothing about hollowducks, but I haven't laughed so much on a CC thread for ages!And much more entertaining than yet another chain wax thesis.
As a CC mod I cannot condone such behaviorI've given up now. Let's go find that Dutch cycling forum and spam where he posts.

I've given up now. Let's go find that Dutch cycling forum and spam where he posts.
He was kicked the "Fiets"forum out several years ago, and continued his stream of complaints on the "MTB forum" (nickname "Nova")
It's all very harmless on this thread, wouldn't want any bans from this stuff.
No, I talked about a 20 g credit card:@silva, are you talking about credit/debit cards that are covered by the ISO/IEC 7810 ID-1 standard?
It dictates the size of the card, and materials, which means it also indirectly dictates their weight. Which for most is 5 grams, metal cards may be slightly heavier.
This standard also applies to ID cards, plastic driving licences and train/bus cards.
You talk about "usual plastic cards".
- JP Morgan Reserve: 27g
- Luxury Card MasterCard Gold Card: 22g
- Bilt Palladium: 21g
- Citi Strata Elite: 19g
- Citi Prestige: 18g
- Citi AAdvantage Executive: 18g
- AmEx Centurion: 17g
- AmEx Platinum: 17g
- HSBC Premier World Elite: 17g
- Capital One Venture X: 17g
- Capital One Savor: 17g
- Synchrony Verizon: 17g
- CNB Crystal: 17g
- Bilt Mastercard: 16g
- US Bank Altitude Reserve: 16g
- Capital One Venture: 16g
- Apple Card: 15g
- AmEx Gold: 15g
- AmEx Marriott Bonvoy Brilliant: 15g
- AmEx Delta SkyMiles Platinum: 15g
- US Bank Shopper: 14g
- AmEx Amazon Business Prime: 14g
- Chase Sapphire Reserve (CSR): 13g
- Chase Sapphire Preferred (CSP): 13g
- Chase Amazon Prime: 13g
- AmEx Delta Reserve: 12g
- Chase UA Club: 12g
- US Bank Altitude Go: 12g
- BoA Premium Rewards: 11g
- Wells Fargo Autograph: 11g
- Usual Plastic cards: 5g
I talked about a 20 g credit card:
I arrived on the "fiets" forum with the question why the chain (then Gusset tank) on my avatar bike twisted to such a degree, after the dealer of the bike answered he had no idea, and that he had never seen such a twisted chain.He was kicked the "Fiets"forum out several years ago, and continued his stream of complaints on the "MTB forum" (nickname "Nova")
Yeah and then it snaps and you have to leave the stuff you wanted to buy at the cashier to then limp back home!Ridiculous. You could make it hollow and halve that!
Nay lad, you only mentioned credit cards. I mentioned the ISO standard that covers such cards and you now claim you meant something else. Both posts are there, read what you actually said.No, I talked about a 20 g credit card:
https://www.uscreditcardguide.com/the-most-heavy-credit-cards-list/
You talk about "usual plastic cards".
cut cut cut cut cut.... But I'll tell you again to do your homework before replying.