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fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
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South Manchester
You mean, my piss poor funding of bicycle industry and dealers?
My drivetrain continued and continues to do the job, despite the broken off teeth. In case ring, the remaining teeth suffice, in case rear cog, the remaining valleys suffice. And bonus: the thickness of the metal is there the max = the thickness of the plate where the teeth were machined out of it to high and narrower.

No your poor maintenance simple. Broken teeth says it. It's your 'teeth' (the dental kind). You can appreciate when no-one on here takes anything you say seriously about your views on quality of bike components (hollowtech) when you are riding round on a bike with serious defects. :o)
 

classic33

Leg End Member
Here in lies your extensive issues. Piss poor maintenance.
I think the actual problem is no maintenance by the owner. I pity the buyer should he ever sell a bike.
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
I think the actual problem is no maintenance by the owner. I pity the buyer should he ever sell a bike.

I don't think anyone would buy it. Got to love people who criticise industry standards, when they have a bike that's fit only for the junk yard. I'd take someone a bit more serious if they did tonnes of miles and were replacing parts as they wore out, but 7 years on a chainring with missing teeth is bonkers. And the poster doesn't listen to people who know better (as in everyone on this thread).
 

Ajax Bay

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Just a quack one @silva - could I confirm you've never actually fitted a hollowtech2 BB/chainset?
(The OP 'snapped' the spindle of one of this type.)
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@silva answered thus: "As said earlier . . . :

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Your last sentence then, it wasn't my "opinion", it was my "experience".
The only plus I experienced, also already said here and elsewhere on the forum, from Hollow Technology, was the chainring centering of Hollow Technology version Hollow Technology 2: on the bike used before my avatar bike, and used while the latter was on repair, the tension variation of the chain was near to nil (remember, case singlespeed). But its bearings failed after 5 years, and the Octalink version of Hollow Technology, failed for me due to that loosening crank, . . .
And continued: "It was the bike I used before the avatar bike. I purchased it with a singlespeed drivetrain. But reoccurring annoyant freewheeling in both directions with the freewheel, trying other brands/models (up to triple the price, . . . decided to let it convert to a fixed gear."
Have you ever fitted Hollowtech 2 yourself?

I am pretty convinced that @silva has never actually fitted a Hollowtech 2 bottom bracket and chainset - assed this question ?10 days ago but received flocculent obfuscation (see above). Fortunately for this community, lack of experience has not hampered his generosity of opinion sharing.
 
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Jameshow

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I don't think anyone would buy it. Got to love people who criticise industry standards, when they have a bike that's fit only for the junk yard. I'd take someone a bit more serious if they did tonnes of miles and were replacing parts as they wore out, but 7 years on a chainring with missing teeth is bonkers. And the poster doesn't listen to people who know better (as in everyone on this thread).

Steady on you haven't even met me!! 🤣
What is the cycle matainance you speak off?!🤣🤣🤣
 

silva

Über Member
Location
Belgium
Well, your 'dealer'/ bike shop owner is an idiot(s). I would suggest you do these jobs yourself. I never take my bikes to a bike shop as I do a better job and take care. You also need to pay attention to the bike a bit more.
"Idiot"... of course not, just people that want to be paid with the least effort they can get away with. It's also solvable, check their jobs asap, and picking it up at their shop, to do it there, is the best way to give them no blahblah out.

I started to do the latter with the dealer of my previous set (two) (singlespeed from beginning) bikes.
- A ball too much in rear wheel bearing causing pressure that forced cup and cone apart, resulting in alot play already when walking the bike at hand out of his shop.
- A longer tube for handlebar, to sit higher, came loose on the first road bump, less than a km to walk back to his shop.
- A "spacer" to get the chainline good, actually was some alu ring from wherever with 3 holes in it, discovered when it broke at the first pedal push when leaving his shop.
I had asked him in the shop to directly mount the rear wheel, so that I could check if the job was not botched, good I did, it was.
And So On.
See, it's a matter of checking the job of personell you hire already at declared "done" time. Since I started doing that, no surprises anymore when things assumed as ready spare turn out to be not ready, leaving one with in-use and spare(s) both out and need for a pick up.
Also, this way no excuse for extra billings, since the botched jobs are at the same time, in/near shop identified as such, which makes it impossible to blame it elsewhere. :tongue:
See that ball too much in the bearing case. I was watching while he disassembled, he couldn't hide it so had to admit.

Regarding your claim that I wouldn't pay enough attention to the bike, that's baseless flaming out to lack of real arguments to come up with.
But that's no new story eh Mister fossyant? We read on...
 

silva

Über Member
Location
Belgium
J.P. Morgan disagree with you on the weight.
Their confirmed weight 28.35 grams is heavier.

You have the required $10,000,000 in your account with them, to be even considered for one?

Still suggest you read all of what was posted in #230. Then answer the question you were asked in that same post.
As given, my source was https://www.uscreditcardguide.com/the-most-heavy-credit-cards-list/ so change your sentence to:
J.P. Morgan disagrees with uscreditcardguide
The rest of your post is filling of forums electronic paper.
 

silva

Über Member
Location
Belgium
Have you ever fitted Hollowtech 2 yourself?
As said: the second bike of my previous dealer, bought 1 year after the first (square taper), was delivered with HollowTech2, he offered it, I relied on his recommendation.
It turned out to be the first bottom bracking bearings fail I had so far on all bikes.

As said: I let above fix by another dealer, one not on my daily path, and he replaced it, after removing the left crank, using a hammer and chisel to move the driveside part of the set out.

And now you ask me if I ever fitted Hollowtech2 myself?
So I'm gonna bounce your question back: did you ever read here?
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
Why are you taking a bike to a 'dealer' if all the ones you seem to go to do a bad job ?

Hollowtech isn't the newer Hollowtech 2 standard that was asked about ? You seemed to have trouble with the early version with the short splines, but then again, they were fitted by your 'reliable dealers'.
 

silva

Über Member
Location
Belgium
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I am pretty convinced that @silva has never actually fitted a Hollowtech 2 bottom bracket and chainset - assed this question ?10 days ago but received flocculent obfuscation (see above). Fortunately for this community, lack of experience has not hampered his generosity of opinion sharing.
This is again lack-of-arguments jesting alike I ever suggested, let alone claimed, that I EVER mounted ANY bottom bracket / crankset.

While on the other hand I actually talked here and elsewhere on this forum about the occasions of dealers doing that for me, being
- 2 times my previous dealer (2 bikes, new mounts of a square taper and a Hollowtech2, - a replacement mount on my avatar bike square taper (after Stronglight crankset cranks broke at pedal eyes) to Octalink 1 as centering tolerance test),
- another dealer replacing the failed bearings HollowTech2 Cheating of the Light Religion, and the last,
- the dealer of my current/avatar bike, an employee of him that proved to do jobs better, that replaced that Octalink 1 back to square taper, because the centering test result was FAIL, and since bottom bracket had to be removed anyway (due to frame replacement), it was an opportunity to get rid of that Octalink 1 design flaw resulting loosening left crank, for good.

Fred Flintstone: Wilma cooked for me
Fred Flintstone: restaurant Dino cooked for me
Fred Flintstone: Betty Rubble cooked for me.
Ajax Bay: "I am pretty convinced" that Fred Flintstone has never actually cooked.

Well Good Job, Mister Ajax Bay, having been "convinced" of the obvious. :P
 

silva

Über Member
Location
Belgium
Why are you taking a bike to a 'dealer' if all the ones you seem to go to do a bad job ?

Hollowtech isn't the newer Hollowtech 2 standard that was asked about ? You seemed to have trouble with the early version with the short splines, but then again, they were fitted by your 'reliable dealers'.

Why are you taking a bike to a 'dealer' if all the ones you seem to go to do a bad job ?

Hollowtech isn't the newer Hollowtech 2 standard that was asked about ? You seemed to have trouble with the early version with the short splines, but then again, they were fitted by your 'reliable dealers'.
Again Copy Cat has to say "Meow":
"See, it's a matter of checking the job of personell you hire already at declared "done" time."
That's why. What I do on the bike myself are the drivetrain parts, that is, chainring, chain, rear cog (fixed gear), since those are the by far leading wearing parts, with the chain as number 1, and since a while for me, the chainring and rear cog shifted waaay down the wearing rank, because I flipped sprockets to prevent sharkfin shaping that excess wear by forcing disengaging rollers to roll up the insides, and, when teeth tops break off due having become too weak, instead of replace, continue with the sprocket. This proved as possible - no force transmission problems.

"You seemed..." is your next straw man: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
I won't bother to Copy Cat, instead leaving you bothering quoteing me saying "HollowTech 1" instead of "HollowTech 2".
 

Webbo2

Über Member
This is again lack-of-arguments jesting alike I ever suggested, let alone claimed, that I EVER mounted ANY bottom bracket / crankset.

While on the other hand I actually talked here and elsewhere on this forum about the occasions of dealers doing that for me, being
- 2 times my previous dealer (2 bikes, new mounts of a square taper and a Hollowtech2, - a replacement mount on my avatar bike square taper (after Stronglight crankset cranks broke at pedal eyes) to Octalink 1 as centering tolerance test),
- another dealer replacing the failed bearings HollowTech2 Cheating of the Light Religion, and the last,
- the dealer of my current/avatar bike, an employee of him that proved to do jobs better, that replaced that Octalink 1 back to square taper, because the centering test result was FAIL, and since bottom bracket had to be removed anyway (due to frame replacement), it was an opportunity to get rid of that Octalink 1 design flaw resulting loosening left crank, for good.

Fred Flintstone: Wilma cooked for me
Fred Flintstone: restaurant Dino cooked for me
Fred Flintstone: Betty Rubble cooked for me.
Ajax Bay: "I am pretty convinced" that Fred Flintstone has never actually cooked.

Well Good Job, Mister Ajax Bay, having been "convinced" of the obvious. :P

Do you need to picking up your prescription 😉
 
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