So should they ban smoking at the wheel?

[Smokin Joe]

I've thrown a condom from a car window. It was parked up at the time, though.

 

[Tetedelacourse]

Was it lit?

 

[col]

Now worries,it will float of into the stratosphere,im guessing you blow em up and play at balloons in the car.

 

[Jaded]

I've thrown a condom from a car window. It was parked up at the time, though.

A parked condom. Throwing that sounds painful!

 

[gbb]

You suspect that the vast majority of smokers don't, say, stub cigarettes out on the street, thus creating litter? Really?[/QUOTE]

This really sounds more like Soapbox every post
That wasnt the arguement Cab.... i didnt say that, i didnt infer that.
You cant just throw anything into the arguement...and claim to read someone elses mind or know what their behaviour may or may not be.

FWIW, of course SOME smokers litter with their butts....everyone on this planet does something wrong sometimes...maybe even you

 

[Tetedelacourse]

http://www.cyclechat.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=1635[/url]

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[Big Bren]

It seems that the Blair governments' habit of creating new laws rather than simply making sure that the existing ones are robustly enforced is contagious. There are perfectly adequate littering laws that prohibit smokers from dumping their detritus, from car windows or otherwise; no need then to 'ban it', simply a need to enforce more aggressively.

To suggest by the way that anything other than a tiny minority of smokers dispose of their filthy dog-ends properly is utter balls.

Bren

 

[Cab]

This really sounds more like Soapbox every post
That wasnt the arguement Cab.... i didnt say that, i didnt infer that.

Cool, thanks. I wasn't picking, just seeking clarification.

You cant just throw anything into the arguement...and claim to read someone elses mind or know what their behaviour may or may not be.

FWIW, of course SOME smokers litter with their butts....everyone on this planet does something wrong sometimes...maybe even you

I do plenty of things wrong I'm sure. None spring to mind just right now though...

Just really bringing it up because its a pet hate of mine. Many smokers (not pointing at anyone in general) seem to litter their cigarette butts all over the place. Just seems unacceptable to me.

 

[Cab]

As far as I can tell, this minor change in the highway code simply means that if you're multi-tasking on the road and have an accident you might just have that held against you. Ugly term, 'contributory negligence'.

So someone is smoking, talking on a hands free, faffing about on the radio etc. then it might be used against them in deciding if the accident they had was partly their fault.

Is that a good change in the highway code? Well, yeah, maybe.

 

[Cab]

This year's mistake has already been made and reported:

http://www.cyclechat.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=1635

And after that reception there I've been scared to admit to making any more mistakes on these boards

 

[Panter]

I say yes...it's as dangerous as using a phone...what say you?

I don't smoke anymore but I used to drive perfectly safely whilst smoking.

Equally, I know some people who I'd rather passenger with holding a fag in one hand and phone in the other and feel a hell of a lot safer than some other drivers with both hands gripping the wheel.

Some can do it and some can't.

I disagree with the driving on the phone law too. I think the law was powerfull enough before, if it was distracting you from driving safely, you could be charged for it.

Thats the problem with these specific laws, they don't allow for differing levels of competence. Almost smells like another government money making scam to me.................

 

[col]

Probably,i always stub it and bin it,but even when im with others chatting,most just throw them.When a council official gives them a fifty pound ticket ,that might help them change.

Sorry i meant to add not after probably,im agreeing with you again cab,im going for a lie down now

 

[Rhythm Thief]

Observe other smokers habits, rhythm thief, and you will see many examples of objects being flung around, whether the twits are peds or drivers.

Oh, I agree. But my point was that there's no need to infer from that that all of us are dangerous homicidal maniacs and can be classified as "risk takers", whatever that means.

 

[Nortones2]

My point was to say the risk is increased by distraction and nicotine addiction, esp. when said drug is running short in the blood stream. The addict reaches for another dose to calm the craving, whilst aiming vehicle vaguely in the required direction. You are the one to see this infers dangerous homicidal mania. On the other hand, perhaps it is....