Spoke key.

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Ajax Bay

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East Devon
On the GCN videos they hold the middle of the spoke with a device but say pliers will do if you don’t have a spoke holder.
Your spokes (Hunt 4S, 24/28 F/R) are 'round' not bladed (which the 'aero' GCN marketeers 'all' use, often 'straight pull', no 'j' bend at hub). Bladed spokes need to stay oriented. Spokes may twist during truing, but once you're done a good squeeze all round will release any twists. Lubrication has been mentioned. This is worth it: one drip on the hub side of the rim, hopefully eyeletted, on all the front spoke holes and the drive side (DS) rear. The reason for not using any on the NDS ones is because they are typically 2/3rds the DS tension, so far less friction (nipple/eyelet).
". . . rare on an old wheel when a rim is out of true only at one point" = I know you say it’s rare on one spot but it’s a Hunt four season and it’s massive in one place. Prob from dropping off the kerb thinking they’re bombproof.
I have 'literally' had to solve a wheel/rim like yours. My son hit a pothole hard resulting in a dented (rim-brake) rim - amazingly he didn't suffer a snake bite (Day 3 of a trek to Cornwall).
I could have sorted out the braking surface but the catastrophe was a significant 'flat' 5cm there to the extent that the NDS spoke had gone loose (so also a local 'buckle' to the right).
It's very difficult (as in only experts on here will say they could) to true a rim radially in this circumstance (which I suspect is yours as well as laterally). LBS, new rim, ERD 10mm more, perchance I had two sets of 16 black spokes right length, new nipples, lace the hub to it, trued on an empty frame. Roll on.
(What’s a good value spoke key? Spokey for me too.)
 
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SuperGalactian

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Speaking of the pinging noises that spokes make if they have to release tension … On the last day of our most recent cycle tour, we made a short local foray before catching the train home. As we hit a length of gravel track, I heard that instantly recognisable pinging noise from my bike. Now, I knew the wheels had been dead true at the start of the trip, so my immediate thought was that a spoke had broken, causing its neighbours to reassess their position. So I stopped and dismounted, but could see no fault. Set off again, and a short distance along, that pinging noise happened again. Had another look, still couldn’t see anything wrong. This repeated several times, until finally I realised that the waist strings on my shorts - which had metal ends - were pinging on the top tube.

Doh! I generally wear lycra on the bike, but because of the train journey I was in mufti for once. Lesson learned, you might think, but after thinking about it, I had a very, very faint recollection that it had maybe happened (and been solved) once before …
 

Ming the Merciless

There is no mercy
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Yellow Spokey for me. Nice and easy to use, grip nipples well, easy to gauge how much you have turned it. A little grease or light oil on spoke threads to make it easier to tension without too much spoke twisting going on till final turns.

Tip, if you use higher spoke count wheels, you have less tension in each individual spoke, and less tendency for twisting when bringing spokes up to tension.
 
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