Glow worm
Legendary Member
- Location
- Near Newmarket
Yes same here. As someone mentioned above, I'd also face divorce if I didn't wear it! (Though the drink/ drugs/ one night stands thing that could follow sounds OK to me!)
Springs here, time to dump the helmet
- Thread starter gbb
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Yes same here. As someone mentioned above, I'd also face divorce if I didn't wear it! (Though the drink/ drugs/ one night stands thing that could follow sounds OK to me!)
Trevrev
Veteran
- Location
- Southampton
mgarl10024
Über Member
- Location
- Bristol
It was warmer today. Considered losing the hat underneath mine this morning.
OP
OP
gbb
Squire
- Location
- Peterborough
Re-reading the OP to be fair I don't think there's any implication that the material which roads and vehicles are made up of become malleable during the summer months. (although if it got really hot the asphalt might soften up a bit).
The point that was made was that due to less icy conditions and longer daylight hours the risk of hitting these things becomes low enough for the OP to be happy to ditch the helmet.
Just thought I'd clarify as you sound a bit confused
Not far off the mark Paco
...i should have qualified my logic...not that i have to, but helmet discussions inevitably wander off into far flung scenarios..
A general way of putting it..
1. i dont give a monkeys what anyone else does.
2. I neither condemn nor applaud anyone who wears..or doesnt.
3. I'm 52, have ridden a bike for 40 plus years, never been knocked off, only ever fell off twice (AFAICR)
4. Only worn a helmet for the last 2 years...why did i start, i don't know, just seemed a good idea.
5. I only (generally) wear in the winter, simply on the (perhaps wrong) logic that the probablilty of having an off in ice is greater, and 90% of my riding is done in the dark, where i assume (only assume) there's a greater chance of not being seen.
In simple terms, poor lighting and icy roads are MY logic for wearing. I feel safer...whether i am or not i can't control.
Neither apply right now, hence my abandonment of the helmet.
No hidden agenda, no flag waving anti or pro helmet opinion....just a statement of where i am, and did anyone feel or do the same.
I shoulda known better ...
Just remembered, i do remember why i started wearing...a guy at work was knocked off one dark night in winter, the cars wheel arch dented his helmet. After that incident, it (like insurance) makes you think the worst, so i went and brought one.
cyberknight
As long as I breathe, I attack.
- Location
- Land of confusion
Mine stays on all year round.
The issue of courts using not wearing a helmet as contributory negligence in an accident convinced me it is worth it, i might not agree with it but i regard it as a thing i must do like wear reflective s etc
http://www.cyclistsdefencefund.org....ing-cycle-helmets-and-contributory-negligence
http://www.theinjurylawyers.co.uk/i...17/compensation-failing-to-wear-cycle-helmet/
From the ctc
"However it is still alarming that the Judge concluded that, in general, a cyclist's decision not to wear a helmet may be regarded as "contributory negligence" (i.e. compensation for someone else's negligence should be reduced on the basis that the cyclist was also partly to blame for their own injuries), in cases where the helmet would have made a difference. Moreover, Mr Justice Griffith Williams reached his conclusion without hearing any of the contested evidence over the overall effectiveness of helmets.
We believe that Mr Justice Griffith Williams was wrong to extend a legal principle - that not wearing a seat-belt could amount to "contributory negligence" - to cyclists not wearing helmets. This particular principle is based on a 1976 ruling by Lord Denning in the case of Froom v Butcher, made at a time when seat-belt wearing was widely accepted and the Government intended to legislate to make it compulsory. In contrast, cycle helmet wearing rates remain low (particularly for children) and the Government is still saying it has no such intention pass laws.
The Judge also referred to the Highway Code's (non-compulsory) advice that cyclists "should" (i.e. not "MUST") wear helmets (rule 59). However, the Highway Code also advises pedestrians to wear bright or fluorescent clothing in poor daylight and reflective materials at night (rule 3), yet a court would be unlikely to reach a finding of "contributory negligence" against an injured pedestrian who hadn't done so."
The issue of courts using not wearing a helmet as contributory negligence in an accident convinced me it is worth it, i might not agree with it but i regard it as a thing i must do like wear reflective s etc
http://www.cyclistsdefencefund.org....ing-cycle-helmets-and-contributory-negligence
http://www.theinjurylawyers.co.uk/i...17/compensation-failing-to-wear-cycle-helmet/
From the ctc
"However it is still alarming that the Judge concluded that, in general, a cyclist's decision not to wear a helmet may be regarded as "contributory negligence" (i.e. compensation for someone else's negligence should be reduced on the basis that the cyclist was also partly to blame for their own injuries), in cases where the helmet would have made a difference. Moreover, Mr Justice Griffith Williams reached his conclusion without hearing any of the contested evidence over the overall effectiveness of helmets.
We believe that Mr Justice Griffith Williams was wrong to extend a legal principle - that not wearing a seat-belt could amount to "contributory negligence" - to cyclists not wearing helmets. This particular principle is based on a 1976 ruling by Lord Denning in the case of Froom v Butcher, made at a time when seat-belt wearing was widely accepted and the Government intended to legislate to make it compulsory. In contrast, cycle helmet wearing rates remain low (particularly for children) and the Government is still saying it has no such intention pass laws.
The Judge also referred to the Highway Code's (non-compulsory) advice that cyclists "should" (i.e. not "MUST") wear helmets (rule 59). However, the Highway Code also advises pedestrians to wear bright or fluorescent clothing in poor daylight and reflective materials at night (rule 3), yet a court would be unlikely to reach a finding of "contributory negligence" against an injured pedestrian who hadn't done so."
Vapin' Joe
Formerly known as Smokin Joe
- Location
- Bare headed cyclist, Smoker
I wonder if sex forums have the same sort of debate about condoms?
monkeypony
Active Member
Vikeonabike
CC Neighbourhood Police Constable
- Location
- Bourne, Lincolnshire
True, but it wasn't too long ago that smoking was promoted for it's health benefits!
recumbentpanda
Guru
Wear my helmet all year round, mostly, but I have come to realise, for a collection of rather odd reasons:
1. In winter, even a vented helmet is all the hat I need
2. On a bent you need a seriously big sunvisor in fine weather: Helmet provides suitable mount, cap would be too sweaty.
3. It's somewhere to put a front light up high (Bents again!)
4. It makes a handy container for gloves and other trinkets when off the bike.
5. It's pale colour adds to visibility
6. Riding with it hung on the back of the bike entertainingly freaks out families on the cycletrack who are all sweating along in helmets, including full-face ones wobbling on the heads of little kiddies.
7. I think it makes me look butch. (Severe self delusion)
8. Although I don't hold out much hope above the magic 12mph, I do object to tapping my head on things at anything up to that speed.
9. I am worried about my elbows on the bent, so I wear Bauer skater elbow-pads. Not wearing a helmet as well would spoil the resemblance to a roller derby contestant.
1. In winter, even a vented helmet is all the hat I need
2. On a bent you need a seriously big sunvisor in fine weather: Helmet provides suitable mount, cap would be too sweaty.
3. It's somewhere to put a front light up high (Bents again!)
4. It makes a handy container for gloves and other trinkets when off the bike.
5. It's pale colour adds to visibility
6. Riding with it hung on the back of the bike entertainingly freaks out families on the cycletrack who are all sweating along in helmets, including full-face ones wobbling on the heads of little kiddies.
7. I think it makes me look butch. (Severe self delusion)
8. Although I don't hold out much hope above the magic 12mph, I do object to tapping my head on things at anything up to that speed.
9. I am worried about my elbows on the bent, so I wear Bauer skater elbow-pads. Not wearing a helmet as well would spoil the resemblance to a roller derby contestant.
Holdsworth
Guru
- Location
- Crewe, Cheshire
Despite the warmer weather on the horizon I won't be dumping the helmet anytime soon. Regardless of the contested evidence of safety, I think my head will thank me if there is a lump of foam between it and the tarmac!!!
Without the lid I feel more nervous, just a mental thing I know, I once left home for work without it and crapped myself all the way down Middlewich Road!!!
Without the lid I feel more nervous, just a mental thing I know, I once left home for work without it and crapped myself all the way down Middlewich Road!!!
Fab Foodie
hanging-on in quiet desperation ...
- Location
- Kirton, Devon.
Interesting, I feel more confident without mine which was one of the reasons (after some) experimentation I've mostly ditched mine. It did feel odd the first few times without it, but you soon adjust.
asterix
Comrade Member
- Location
- Limoges or York
I don't know, why don't you try some research?
asterix
Comrade Member
- Location
- Limoges or York
..oh and report back!
When I don't wear a helmet I can hear approaching traffic that otherwise is masked by the wind-noise. I prefer to hear traffic and suspect that even when cars are electric it'll still be possible to hear tyre noise.
When I don't wear a helmet I can hear approaching traffic that otherwise is masked by the wind-noise. I prefer to hear traffic and suspect that even when cars are electric it'll still be possible to hear tyre noise.
the snail
Guru
- Location
- Chippenham
But we didn't realise how terribly dangerous cycling is. What I don't understand is why people take their helmets off when they're walking or at home, seeing as you're more likely to sustain a head injury then
DrSquirrel
Guest
I normally wear mine all year around - I feel strange with it.
I was toying with not using it in the bad (silly cold) weather so I could ride slowly with a wooly hat, but basic falls were a higher risk then so I kept it on - also in the dark mornings etc having lights on the helmet etc was a bonus.
I am toying with dropping the helmet for the back road commute in the summer - on the basis that only a handful of cars pass me, and without the helmet I am more likely to hear them coming.
I was toying with not using it in the bad (silly cold) weather so I could ride slowly with a wooly hat, but basic falls were a higher risk then so I kept it on - also in the dark mornings etc having lights on the helmet etc was a bonus.
I am toying with dropping the helmet for the back road commute in the summer - on the basis that only a handful of cars pass me, and without the helmet I am more likely to hear them coming.
