Statin tablets.

[Bill Gates]

Same as me, 20mg a day. No side effects at all. We're all different and my doc did say you'll not reduce your level enough by diet. Quite happy with the results.

We're all different and drugs interact differently. but I've had two of my ex. clubmates drop dead far too early ! Everything else points to very low risk of heart attack etc, but I seem to be genetically high cholesterol (both parents on statins for years).

We all have our own opinions, so lets stay there and not fall out.

That's why I voted for you to be enrolled in the Hall of Fame. Very Statesmanship like.

 

[fossyant]

That's why I voted for you to be enrolled in the Hall of Fame. Very Statesmanship like.

I can just see everyone starting to 'fall out'. As for various pain meds, I don't get on with Pregablin, gabapentin and duloxetine - horrible side effects and limited pain relief, so I just put up with my back pain, the pain isn't as bad as the side effects. If the statins cause me issues, I will bin them.

 

[winjim]

I get my clinical biochemistry exam results next week. I'm keeping my own counsel until then, but I think I did alright on the lipid question. At least I gave a pretty full and comprehensive explanation although I'm not entirely sure I was answering the right question if I'm honest. We'll find out soon I suppose.

 

[Sharky]

I can just see everyone starting to 'fall out'. As for various pain meds, I don't get on with Pregablin, gabapentin and duloxetine - horrible side effects and limited pain relief, so I just put up with my back pain, the pain isn't as bad as the side effects. If the statins cause me issues, I will bin them.

Interested to know what the side effects of pregabalin were. Our autistic daughter has been on it for a long time, along with other meds, all for anxiety and ocd issues. She cannot express how she feels.

 

[vickster]

Interested to know what the side effects of pregabalin were. Our autistic daughter has been on it for a long time, along with other meds, all for anxiety and ocd issues. She cannot express how she feels.

It made my short term memory go to pot (things like not remembering whether I'd sent a work email 15 minutes later!) I was ok on 50mg but 100mg was too much. The lower dose didn't really help with the sleep disturbance due to nighttime pain so I stopped (under medical supervision)

 

[pawl]

I had a problem with statins aching joints.Doc tried various brands dosage etc.Practice nurse suggested taking one of the small bottles of Benacol.

I had an aortic valve replaced six year’s ago and the consultant was going to prescribe statins along with Aspirin and Bisprolol. Advised him Statins just did not suit me. The pharmacist came to see me an recommended Ezetamide as an alternative High colesterol was not a problem in my diagnosis the valve was not opening fully.The valve has three flaps which open to slow blood flow .In my case only two opened restricting blood flow.

MyBIL is on statins and swears by them A friend prescribed statins has problems with Statins

Horses for courses

 

[Andy_R]

......Horses for courses

What, starter or main?

 

[winjim]

What, starter or main?

horse d'oeuvres

 

[mjr]

[...] an enlarged heart and calcification of the valves. Apparently, this may be caused by a combination of taking statin and blood pressure tablets, which got me wondering, although my blood pressure is spot on so I can rule this one out so no tablets for that.
What are your views on it if you have medical knowledge?

Can you get a calcium scan? I think I saw that wotsit Moseley get one on the BBC. No idea how willing they are to do them. Maybe if you express your concerns, the specialist can suggest how to test for a yay/nay/further investigation.

I've not much medical knowledge except what I've got from having high cholesterol if not treated. I took statins. Atorvastatin first. I thought I was OK but then I couldn't stand up and once I stopped taking them, I realised I am missing months of memory, scattered over years, so who knows! Then Rosuvastatin (far worse - felt like broken bones, plus dizziness, nausea and more), Simvastatin (better but cramp-like and bad test results) and Pravastatin (better but still cramp-like)... also have relatives who take them, not all with problems but more with than without AFAIK. Now I'm on other drugs. So on the whole, I do worry that we don't understand the full function and importance of the HMG-CoA blocked by statins.

 

[lazybloke]

<SNIP>
All I can do is open the door to the possibility for you that these drugs are not only unnecessary but are in fact poison.

I've obviously missed the details in previous threads, but that's an extremely emphatic declaration.
They may be poison to you; they may have been mis-prescribed. The side-effects of statins are very well documented, but are not a certainty; my Dad has been on them for years with no side-effects.
They do not appear to be "poison" to all. Can you concede the possibility that many find statins extremely useful to manage atherosclerosis?

 

[Sharky]

No medical knowledge whatsoever, but I would ask myself

• What were the reasons for the symptoms which caused you to start the medicine?
• Was it down to life style - weight, alcohol, smoking, diet, exercise, stress etc?
• Has there been any changes in life style?
• If there have, then you can take these points to the GP and discuss
• If still the same lifestyle, then stopping the tabs, you would think, would return you to the state you were in 30 yrs ago - but still talk to your GP. Maybe the amount could be reduced with regular monitoring.

Good luck

 

[Bill Gates]

No medical knowledge whatsoever, but I would ask myself

• What were the reasons for the symptoms which caused you to start the medicine?
• Was it down to life style - weight, alcohol, smoking, diet, exercise, stress etc?
• Has there been any changes in life style?
• If there have, then you can take these points to the GP and discuss
• If still the same lifestyle, then stopping the tabs, you would think, would return you to the state you were in 30 yrs ago - but still talk to your GP. Maybe the amount could be reduced with regular monitoring.

Good luck

I eliminated stress. Stress is a major factor in CVD.

 

[Bill Gates]

At the end of the day it's a personal choice. I can understand the pressures of doctors and family. One doctor told me 14 years ago that if I didn't take statins I would be dead within 2 years. Try telling that to your wife and still not take statins. The journalists and preeminent doctors who are exposing the truth about statins get regular attacks from the establishment. Its par for the course. Same on here.

Here's the thing. Having spent literally hours and hours researching this for my own benefit I absolutely believe that: -

Fat is not bad for you
Fat is good for you
Refined carbohydrates are bad for you
High Cholesterol is not a factor in CVD

Those of you with an open mind should watch this. The whole premise on which statin medication is based is false. Namely that fat is bad for you and High cholesterol is bad for you. Also check out Nina Teicholz.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC9V1TWYLo4

 

[Bill Gates]

In the words of John Lennon,

Expert, texpert choking smokers
Don't you think the joker laughs at you (ho ho ho, hee hee hee, hah hah hah)
See how they smile like pigs in a sty, see how they snide
I'm crying

 

[winjim]

You know if serious health topics are being discussed, and sensible questions asked, maybe we shouldn't just @ people for lulz.