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Phaeton

Guru
Location
Oop North (ish)
Did you correct it? I update OSM if I find missing stuff or alignment issues. Did a walk earlier this week and missing footpaths and some shown don’t line up with what’s on the ground. So will load my gpx up this weekend and sort out OSM for the problem areas. I also update surface type of cycle paths where I find they are tarmac etc.
Yes I do try to keep them up to date, but I don't find it very easy, it's not very intuitive, I usually take 3 or 4 attempts to get it right
 

YukonBoy

The Monch
Location
Inside my skull
Yes I do try to keep them up to date, but I don't find it very easy, it's not very intuitive, I usually take 3 or 4 attempts to get it right
Probably just because you don’t do it often. I find it pretty easy.
 

nickyboy

Norven Mankey
I can not see a issue with paying for it. they provide a service so should be paid. nothing in life is free.

at £50 a year in relation to a lot of cycling stuff its not very expensive.
You're right it isn't a lot

The issue is that many other social media businesses operate a free to use model and we've got used to that.

I use Dropbox, Twitter, WhatsApp, WeChat, RWGPS, Instagram....all of which are either totally free to use or have a long established free element that they don't mess with
 

David L

Senior Member
You're right it isn't a lot

The issue is that many other social media businesses operate a free to use model and we've got used to that.

I use Dropbox, Twitter, WhatsApp, WeChat, RWGPS, Instagram....all of which are either totally free to use or have a long established free element that they don't mess with

yeah but there free due to advertising, buisness fees, etc. there different buisness models that could be hard to replicate in strava.

i would rarther pay than have advertising become featured in the app
 

CXRAndy

Guru
Location
Lincs
Ultimately, a company cannot continue to offer a free service. Those taking the free service, now wanting to drop Strava, they aren't the customer Strava needs. Strava have built an extremely popular, mostly reliable platform, which captures, not only outdoor but indoor riding too.

The likes of Garmin weren't able to match Strava.
 

Phaeton

Guru
Location
Oop North (ish)
VeloViewer will give you untraveled places and only £10 a year. Check out max square and cluster as well.
What does it give you apart from a weird dashboard with lots of confusing numbers, bearing in mind I don't ride roads & mainly Bridleways etc. & I'm only a non competitive man who rides a bike, I'm not a cyclist
 
The only thing I will miss is the route planning, but I'm not paying £50 a year for that.

Same with me.Had a look at Komoot seemed to have mind of its own when it came to routes.Probably doing it right.Not to bothered really as I riding local
 

Phaeton

Guru
Location
Oop North (ish)
Shouldnt people be saying "Thanks for letting us have it for free for so long Strava" Instead of whinging about having to pay for it?
Nope
The likes of Garmin weren't able to match Strava.
That is not Garmin's core aim, they want to see hardware, I suspect the cycle data side is not a priority for them
Same with me.Had a look at Komoot seemed to have mind of its own when it came to routes.Probably doing it right.Not to bothered really as I riding local
Try RWGPS I must admit I can't get on really with any of them, I've gone with Komoot but as said upthread it's only as good as the data it's drawing from. Locally that's fine as I can find my own way home, but when on holiday it's not as easy.
 

vickster

Legendary Member
I also think that the timing of this is incredibly cynical and insensitive. Putting aside for a moment the global health crisis, it brings with it economic pressures for tens of thousands of people. Businesses going bust, people losing their jobs or having reduced incomes due to being furloghed or laid off work. So, dear Strava in their infinite wisdom, thought this is a good time to ask people to pay, for hitherto free features? Lovley. Well done you.
Perhaps Strava are doing this to protect, even save their own business in a similar way?
It’s their prerogative to charge as a private enterprise, they’re not providing a public service, and they are still providing some of the functionality for free after all.
It’s under £50 a year and you can get it free for 60 days (if not had the free trial or been a premium member before). Pay for it if you can’t live without the pay for features, if you can live without them, there’s no need to pay 👍
 
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johnnyb47

Veteran
Location
Wales
Maybe Strava could of asked its users via a poll as to whether it should continue offering the free service but with adverts, or no adverts and subscription only. Either way they would make money, but would also be favourable towards the majority of users
 

vickster

Legendary Member
Maybe Strava could of asked its users via a poll as to whether it should continue offering the free service but with adverts, or no adverts and subscription only. Either way they would make money, but would also be favourable towards the majority of users
I’d pay to avoid adverts, but would I still have that option if the majority said ads but free? It shouldn’t be one or the other, but that would increase Strava’s admin costs to administer. Advertising revenues will be suffering too in the current climate. I certainly wouldn’t want to be bombarded with betting site ads for example. Strava is also totally global so how does that work with advertising which needs to be appropriately targeted
 
Nope
That is not Garmin's core aim, they want to see hardware, I suspect the cycle data side is not a priority for them
Try RWGPS I must admit I can't get on really with any of them, I've gone with Komoot but as said upthread it's only as good as the data it's drawing from. Locally that's fine as I can find my own way home, but when on holiday it's not as easy.
I don’t often take a bike on holiday (ah poor thing) On the occasions that I did I just relied on the good old OS map that covers that area in thr largest scale available
 

wafter

Über Member
Location
Oxford
In summary I think few can claim it's unfair that the company attempts to make a profit, it's just an unfortunate / questionable /cynical route to:

a) Do so removing features free users had come to expect for nowt
b) Do so at a time when many are just getting into the sport / likely to be struggling financially

I resent having the features I appreciate and enjoy removed and held to ransom, but then have no legit cause for complaint in the grand scheme of things since I've never paid for the priviledge nor been subjected to any ads (although I'd probably prefer this route since I'm one of the minority to use an ad blocker).

It'll be interesting to see how it pans out; I'm hoping they might introduce a mid-tier subscription of say £2/month that would reinstate the features previously enjoyed by free users; as I'm really missing the leaderboards and more importantly the comparisons to my own previous rides.

Personally I'm not interested in the route planning etc as I've always done this through google maps and uploaded the .gpx files to my GPS unit, while the Polar software does a good job of summarising / analysing the HR and other data..
 
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