Stronger wheels...but lightish (if possible)

[vickster]

I currently have 2014 Fulcrum 5s on my Genesis but for the third time in as many rides the rear has gone out of true (seems to be one or two pesky spokes getting loose), so it looks like it might be time for a change (not a performance upgrade, a change ). I am not the lightest (currently around 91kg) and the bike wears a fixed rack and rack bag. It gets ridden on crappy SW London roads mainly. I have 2013 Fulcrum 5s on the carbon but no issue with those wheels (yet)

Pearsons who have kindly rejigged the wheel twice (and will need to do it again) suggested I need stronger wheels with more spokes for what is essentially my 'touring' bike (I added that I am not the lightest either)

I'm assuming hand builts are the way to go, I use 25mm tyres, and a SRAM cassette. None of that deep dish nastiness of course! A nice gunmetal rim and spokes would match the bike beautifully Fulcrums are 1645g

Suggestions, I guess I don't really want to spend more than £250 - is that realistic?

Maybe @Spoked Wheels can assist?

 

[Cyclist33]

As usual: Google.

I would bracket "strength and durability" as part of "performance", what good is a wheel that keeps going out of true?

Someone will be along soon to say "DCR Wheels".

Can't see anything immediately wrong with: http://www.merlincycles.com/shimano-105-5800-hub-on-mavic-open-pro-rim-59395.html

 

[jowwy]

As usual: Google.

I would bracket "strength and durability" as part of "performance", what good is a wheel that keeps going out of true?

Someone will be along soon to say "DCR Wheels".

Can't see anything immediately wrong with: http://www.merlincycles.com/shimano-105-5800-hub-on-mavic-open-pro-rim-59395.html

the only downside to those, is the narrow old style rims - but thats just a personal issue and wont compromise the buiild of the wheel

 

[Cyclist33]

the only downside to those, is the narrow old style rims - but thats just a personal issue and wont compromise the buiild of the wheel

I imagine the biggest risk would be who builds them..!

 

[jowwy]

I imagine the biggest risk would be who builds them..!

true - but i wasnt stating risk, just personal preference to the new wider style rims

 

[Cyclist33]

true - but i wasnt stating risk, just personal preference to the new wider style rims

Yes I got that. Please don't be trying to create a disagreement that isn't there!

 

[vickster]

I emailed DCR and had a response from David already. He's suggested a couple of options. Says 24:28 spoke count should be sufficient. Just looking at what he's suggested

Can't see a spoke count on the linked shimano option, nor a weight

By performance I meant being able to go quicker I guess..and wanted to avoid such bickering

 

[jowwy]

Yes I got that. Please don't be trying to create a disagreement that isn't there!

i wasnt - just stating my preference

 

[jowwy]

I emailed DCR and had a response from David already. He's suggested a couple of options. Says 24:28 spoke count should be sufficient. Just looking at what he's suggested

he's a great guy and gives top notch recommendations....had two sets built buy him

 

[Citius]

I emailed DCR and had a response from David already. He's suggested a couple of options. Says 24:28 spoke count should be sufficient. Just looking at what he's suggested

I'd be a bit wary of anyone who suggests 24/28 spokes is ok for 91kg, plus extra loading, on urban roads. Just my opinion.

 

[vickster]

Just checking that his recommendations don't include those nasty deep rims

 

[vickster]

I'd be a bit wary of anyone who suggests 24/28 spokes is ok for 91kg, plus extra loading, on urban roads. Just my opinion.

Do you build wheels? It's more than the 18/20 on the fulcrums, with which I didn't have an issue with for the first 1000 miles. I guess he's suggesting a compromise based on budget, wheel weight as well. Presumably the actual components used are important in addition to the number of actual spokes

 

[Cyclist33]

I emailed DCR and had a response from David already. He's suggested a couple of options. Says 24:28 spoke count should be sufficient. Just looking at what he's suggested

Can't see a spoke count on the linked shimano option, nor a weight

By performance I meant being able to go quicker I guess..and wanted to avoid such bickering

Shimano 105 hubs come in 28, 32 or 36 hole setups I believe. Weight - you could work it out by getting the component weights.

 

[vickster]

Shimano 105 hubs come in 28, 32 or 36 hole setups I believe. Weight - you could work it out by getting the component weights.

That might be so, but Merlin don't specify what the spec is. Why should I work out the weight, surely that's the role of the retailer to provide the information, especially on an off the peg option

 

[Citius]

Do you build wheels? It's more than the 18/20 on the fulcrums, with which I didn't have an issue with for the first 1000 miles. I guess he's suggesting a compromise based on budget, weight as well

I would rather give the job to someone else, tbh. I would have thought the best compromise would be 32/32.