"Suicide Lanes"

[Pat "5mph"]

Like that, but mandatory.

We have similar locally, lane turning left, cycle lane in the middle, lane going straight ahead.
No way I would be sandwiched in the "cycle" lane, it's inviting left hooks.
I get beeped there for being in the "car" lane: the alternative is to use a parallel segregate facility with 3 pedestrian traffic light within a few yards.
Let them beep me.

 

[classic33]

We have similar locally, lane turning left, cycle lane in the middle, lane going straight ahead.
No way I would be sandwiched in the "cycle" lane, it's inviting left hooks.
I get beeped there for being in the "car" lane: the alternative is to use a parallel segregate facility with 3 pedestrian traffic light within a few yards.
Let them beep me.

Lane has already split into the two seperate feeder lanes, for seperate roads, some 100 yards before the start of the cycle lane. Heavy traffic both sides of the cycle lane.

 

[Pat "5mph"]

Lane has already split into the two seperate feeder lanes, for seperate roads, some 100 yards before the start of the cycle lane. Heavy traffic both sides of the cycle lane.

Still a no from me, probably a no for the whole road.
Heavy traffic?
Nay, only if there's no alternative route, there normally is one.

 

[classic33]

You come out of another road, at right angles to the four lanes. You've to cross another two lanes before being able to turn right. Then a third(first of the four).

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

There used to be a very scary stretch of the A59, between 'Ravens Peak' (west of Blubberhouses) & the Bolton Bridge roundabout (with the B6160 'Bolton Abbey' road)
It was a 3-lane, national speed limit road..... centre lane was available for both directions
Every so often, I'd come down the hill, wanting to turn right onto Storiths Lane, to the 'Back o' T'HIll' café that's on there

It was most definitely a case of pulling to the kerb & waiting... and waiting...… for a gap to cross the road


Thankfully it's been vastly amended now!!!
Two uphill, one down lane, with a Right Turn Only section
https://www.instantstreetview.com/@53.975899,-1.866399,218.89h,-6.18p,1z

And, nearby, the wonderful Beamsley Almshouses (circular!!!)



There was also one on the outskirts of Wakefield, but long ago, that was remodelled, with a bus lane, on the 'inbound' direction
(Black Road/A655, Normanton - Doncaster Road)

 

[Shut Up Legs]

Like that, but mandatory.

Doesn't the UK highway code say you can avoid even a mandatory bike lane if it's unsafe to use? (or in this case: if you risk your life moving in/out of it)

 

[classic33]

Doesn't the UK highway code say you can avoid even a mandatory bike lane if it's unsafe to use? (or in this case: if you risk your life moving in/out of it)

You can move out of it, but the common response seems to be along the lines "of that's where you should be, in your lane".

I'd prefer to stay in lane, with the other traffic on the road. Not a fan of ASL's either.

 

[Andy in Germany]

Yes that's what happens I suspect that the drivers don't see the sign for any left turning cyclist should use the path, so they start to overtake the cyclist then veer left & are amazed the cyclist is still there

Trouble is this then becomes "another idiot cyclist" letter in the Daily Mail. We have similar problems here where a lot of roads are bidirectional for bikes and one way for cars, drivers don't expect bikes coming the other way because there's nothing to warn them, so they get awkward and aggressive.

 

[tommaguzzi]

Phaeton

I know that road it's in Sheffield and its difficult to know what to do other than look everywhere all the time.

 

[Deleted member 26715]

Best thing is it's a road to nowhere with regards to cycles, you go another 1/4 mile & it just stops, once under that bridge up front, you go up a dual carriageway & then end up on another on which cycles are prohibited.

 

[mgs315]

This is one of my favourite local ones:



The junction of the A23 with the start of the M23 going Southbound. The speed limit is technically 50mph at this point but most are accelerating to 70 at this point as the start of motorway regs starts at the dashed line. The poor cyclist that ever attempts this route is expected to cross from the left over the entry to the M23 (on about a 3-4% incline I may add) across impatient streams of traffic at 70mph to carry on along the A23.

I’ve driven the junction many times. I’ve seen a cyclist on it once who almost got killed by a knobber in an Audi doing about 85 and didn’t want to wait. Never ridden it; never will.

 

[Inertia]

I’m confused, I know nothing new!

are mandatory cycle lanes a thing in the UK? And if so, where?

 

[DaveReading]

I’m confused, I know nothing new!

are mandatory cycle lanes a thing in the UK? And if so, where?

We have them around here.

 

[Inertia]

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We have them around here.

Thanks Dave, that answers my question. I thought we were talking about lanes that cyclists MUST use, whereas that's not what mandatory means in this context.

 

[mjr]

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That's out of date. Since TSRGD 2016, mandatory cycle lanes no longer require TROs. Councils merely have to paint them for them to take effect... And yet still, they don't