Surly Straggler

Discussion in 'Bikes and Buying Advice - What Bike?' started by confusedcyclist, 28 Nov 2017.

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  1. GrumpyGregry

    GrumpyGregry non-contributing ex-member

    Your opinion is not objective.

    My only agenda is to ensure that folks who come in here seeking information don't go away with the impression that perfectly safe, perfectly serviceable, equipment used by millions of cyclists around the world, some of whom do some pretty extreme off-tarmac riding with drop bars and bar end shifters, is "frankly dangerous".

    As to how to change gear without taking your hands off the bars? I can't explain it, I just do it. Comes completely naturally.
     
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  2. woodenspoons

    woodenspoons Senior Member

    Location:
    North Yorkshire
    Yadadadada

    Funny how so recently you suggested the bike above for under a grand.
    Have a close look at the shifters.
    Nobber, Q.E.D..
     
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  3. GrumpyGregry

    GrumpyGregry non-contributing ex-member

    Blue bikes? Frankly dangerous.
     
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  4. woodenspoons

    woodenspoons Senior Member

    Location:
    North Yorkshire
    Lethal. All that blue everywhere.
     
  5. Nibor

    Nibor Über Member

    Location:
    Accrington
    I really like bar end shifters the indexing is more precise and the shifts crisper. The ability to trim the front deraileur especially in a triple is brilliant.
     
  6. GrumpyGregry

    GrumpyGregry non-contributing ex-member

    Brilliant, but frankly dangerous?
     
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  7. woodenspoons

    woodenspoons Senior Member

    Location:
    North Yorkshire
    The brilliance will sparkle so much you will lose your grip and fall to your death, if the paint doesn't get you first.
     
  8. Nibor

    Nibor Über Member

    Location:
    Accrington
    Where the Bizarre attitude that bar end shifters are dangerous comes from I have no idea
     
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  9. ozboz

    ozboz Über Member

    Location:
    Richmond ,Surrey
    I agree , although I have changed my bars and gear changing set up on my CC as per photo earlier in thread , I never had any near misses accident wise due to the bar end'ers,
     
  10. ozboz

    ozboz Über Member

    Location:
    Richmond ,Surrey
    I agree , although I have changed my bars and gear changing set up on my CC as per photo earlier in thread , I never had any near misses accident wise due to the bar end'ers
     
  11. Crankarm

    Crankarm Guru

    Location:
    Nr Cambridge
    No need to be offensive and obnoxious. Yes I did recommend this bike because it was a very good sale price being last year's model. I would remove the bar end shifters and fit STI levers or more likely a flat handle bar or touring loop bars with rapid fire shifters which means you have steering, brakes and gear change all together unlike bar end shifters. Infact Rohloff IHG would be even better. I do not find that riding a bike with bar end gear shifters on drop handle bars is a safe experience and will always prefer Shimano STI or MTB rapid fire shifters or Rohloff twist grip instead which give far better control. Bar end shifters on the ends of drop handle bars are so last century. Technology has moved on.
     
  12. Crankarm

    Crankarm Guru

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    You mean you remove one hand from the handlebar to change the shifter? And if you need to change both shifters for front as well as rear derailleurs, both hands? :rolleyes:
     
  13. GrumpyGregry

    GrumpyGregry non-contributing ex-member

    Noe. Firstly because on drop bars I tend to do one then the other, that's just how I roll, I just don't remember getting surprised in such a way that dual shifting is needed, and second because changing gears with bar end shifters does not require me to remove either hand from the handlebar. If you are taking a hand off, and shifting with finger tips from a dangling arm, you are doing it wrong. You don't shift with bar ends like you would with downtube shifters.
     
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  14. User1252

    User1252 Guest

    Did you answer about indicating etc?
     
  15. woodenspoons

    woodenspoons Senior Member

    Location:
    North Yorkshire
    Comment + smiley face. FFS!
     
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