SUVs are useless for carrying stuff

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Gunk

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Location
Oxford
I've got a Ford C-Max. Not sure if it counts as an SUV. I once fitted in three people, a bike, a tent, camping, holiday and bike ride stuff for one person for a week, a wheelchair, two Zimmer frames and luggage for the other two people for a week. Happy with that!

An MPV, a great concept, sadly now out fashion

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mustang1

Legendary Member
Location
London, UK
Yes I agree. For an SUV and an estate car of the same length, the SUV hasn't got as much space.

Having said that, I use my sub with 4 bikes, 4 suitcases, 2 large picnic cooler bags, 4 rucksacks, 2 large bags with food and cannot be squashed, a few other small bags that are squashable, cricket bat, hockey stick, football, frisby and various smaller balls. Inside the cabin are several large iced drink bottles, many phones and iPads and laptops, books and things like that. It's a hoot when we go on holiday!

Edit: oh yeah, I forgot the bike stuff: 2 shoe boxes of bike tools, track pump, 4 D locks, 4 water bottles. :smile:
 
I like to use the box and bag analogy. Imagine the box that the car came in.
The imagine a bag inside the car filled with water into every nook and cranny.
You now have the ratio of intetior to exterior volume.
Modern safety regs grab a some interior volume. Aerodynamic slipperyness takes a bit more. A huge chunk of the loss in space efficiency is due to styling. I wouldn't even call it design ( except in the case of "hair design studio").
Do the car mag reviews do this metric.
 

Ming the Merciless

There is no mercy
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Inside my skull
I like to use the box and bag analogy. Imagine the box that the car came in.
The imagine a bag inside the car filled with water into every nook and cranny.
You now have the ratio of intetior to exterior volume.
Modern safety regs grab a some interior volume. Aerodynamic slipperyness takes a bit more. A huge chunk of the loss in space efficiency is due to styling. I wouldn't even call it design ( except in the case of "hair design studio").
Do the car mag reviews do this metric.

I believe this was the test filling all the nooks and crannies with water

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Since a lot of SUVs are 2WD what's the difference between them and an MPV?

We got an mpv because we needed more room than our old estate. Space was better arranged too despite it being a SEAT.

A Ford main dealer saleswoman was showing us various secondhand cars and we got talking about models. She listed the basic platforms models are made out of. Basically there are something like 4 platforms with basic car, SUV and MPV. One size had two MPVs at the time, a high v volume one and sportier one. She was very derogatory towards SUVs. She said a new model range came out in DUVs based on the normal car platform. It went from 4 or 5 NCAP safety rating in the car to iirc 2! The SUV version simply wasn't as safe despite the perception SUVs are safer. She Basically said they had no suitable car but we shouldn't look at the SUVs they had a few of. We should wait for a car.

She said a lot more too. She really hated the fashion for SUVs but it was her job to sell them. I think there's a push for them by brands back then.
 
I've got a Ford C-Max. Not sure if it counts as an SUV. I once fitted in three people, a bike, a tent, camping, holiday and bike ride stuff for one person for a week, a wheelchair, two Zimmer frames and luggage for the other two people for a week. Happy with that!
We had one of those, a ‘57’ plate, it was a vile thing
Its only redeeming feature was LED tail-lights

A 1.8 petrol, that always needed the a/c on or it misted up
3 cracked windscreens too!

I loathed it that much, l used to leave all 4 windows down overnight
Even the local scrotes had more taste than to take it

My wonderful Octavia estate took over from it (March 2012 - May 2021)

:thumbsdown:
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Gunk

Guru
Location
Oxford
SUV = Sodding Ugly Vehicle

Or Shite Understeering Vehicle
 

alicat

Legendary Member
Location
Staffs
Mine's a 63 plate so it looks okay if not exactly exciting. It was useful when I had elderly parents and friends - they found it easier to get in and out of than a normal car.
 

rogerzilla

Legendary Member
My CX-5 was pretty good for sticking bikes in. I decided I looked a bit of a knob driving an SUV, though, so I have a Mazda 3 now.
 

Gillstay

Über Member
I bought a Berlingo off a nice lady who's Dad had owned it, but she took it off him at holiday time as the SUV she owned did not carry all the stuff they took camping. Mate has a new Porche SUV. Cannot even manage 30mpg. I cannot recall when I last had a car that would pollute so much. 1982 perhaps.
 
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