Taking off the door mirror...

[Rob3rt]

Why doesn't somebody mention this thread on a petrolhead forum, just for fun?

Because then insanity might team up with fiction in order to defeat motorist, in which case the world will end!

 

[glenn forger]

I think it's rather more unreasonable that a driver can smash into a cyclist's head with a wing mirror and kill them and then walk free from court.

 

[nickyboy]

I think it's rather more unreasonable that a driver can smash into a cyclist's head with a wing mirror and kill them and then walk free from court.

Just because one thing is more unreasonable than another does not render the lesser one reasonable

 

[glenn forger]

What lesser one?

 

[nickyboy]

What lesser one?

Premeditated removal of a car's wing mirror

 

[glenn forger]

I haven't suggested that, I said the only two times it's happened to me the driver was on the wrong side of the road. Their fault. The fact they scarpered both times suggests they weren't bothered or were anxious not to involve Johnny Law.

 

[nickyboy]

I've done it, never on the bike, but if someone parks on the pavement I may be less careful about scraping a key down three panels of the car and taking the wing mirror off. No point doing it on a bike because so many drivers have no hesitation about using their vehicle as a weapon. A three-panel gouge will write off a £1000 car.

Good.

I think you're mindset is there for all to see. This is so far removed from reasonable behavior in my opinion there's no point discussing further. I'm out

 

[coffeejo]

So you would not go for a ride with yourself as you are capable of anger and behaving irrationally?

Your point on anger management is well made and an interesting one. Why do you think it is that my presumed anger management problem only ever manifests itself, via wing mirror directed violence, when I'm on a bike. (given it is 20 odd years since I set foot an a rugby pitch as a player).

I will admit to punching WVM back in August (no wing mirrors were harmed in this event) but he had head butted, slapped, grabbed and punched me before I laid a finger on him, the spittle flecks landing on my face were offputting and though he had permanently disabled my bike he had failed to disable meso I felt it was only appropriate that I should terminate his attack.

Well, I can't remember the last time I actually lost my temper and I've never committed an act of criminal damage or vandalism.

Anyway, this thread is now just going round in circles and I've nothing new to add. Au revoir.

 

[fossyant]

I've thumped a car that came to close, and twanged a door mirror from one bloke that was trying to knock me off but that's it. I could easily have done it to the guy that clipped me last week, but he had sped off and I'd have no chance of catching (access to motorway) and also there were very few 'escape routes'.

The other down side, is there are far less cyclists in Manchester on major commute routes and certainly less 'roadies' so I'm quite identifiable. Smacking a car could easily catch up with me a few weeks later.

 

[Jody]

There have been very few threads on CC that both make me angry and sad. Unfortunately this is one of the few.
The motorist will not be more considerate of cyclists in the future. He will now hate all cyclists.

This ^. Everybody makes mistakes but that doesn't mean that you should damage their property. You have your p.o.v and they have theirs. 2 wrongs also don't make a right. Rise above it and get on with life!

Either this thread is full of Clarkson type humour or there are people out there who should seek help.

 

[slowmotion]

[QUOTE 2916688, member: 259"]When removing the mirror, does everyone favour an old-fashioned rugby-style hand-off or are there any tuggers or kickers?[/quote]
Style is everything.

 

[Jody]

Help from our police and judicial system?

Help from mental professionals if your kicking wing mirrors off cars. Which then makes you as bad as the people you are attacking.

Yes the police could back up whatever sections of society better and hand out appropriate sentences but that is discussion for another thread.

 

[benb]

Which then makes you as bad as the people you are attacking.

Only if you think damaging a wing mirror is as bad as injuring or killing someone.

 

[Leodis]

More of a screamer/yeller/hand guesture cyclist than physical damage.

 

[Jody]

Only if you think damaging a wing mirror is as bad as injuring or killing someone.

Obviously serious injury or death is different to a damaged wing mirror. But a near miss is just that. What if every time you had a near miss in a car (not your fault) you got out and attacked the driver or damaged their car? Does the law protect you because you had a near miss? No you get prosecuted for criminal damage, road rage or assault.