Tea? (Part 1)

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Speicher

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Went to see The Doctor today, well a real one anyway.:biggrin:

He asked lots of questions and prodded and tested strength, mobility etc etc. As I hoped, he was not just trying to diagnose a problem with my back, but so many illnesses etc have back pain as a symptom. He ruled out one or two possibilities. In short he suggested a scan, physiotherapy, and different painkillers. His diagnosis is decompositon discomposure disconditioning. Basically after the pain of the first two falls, I have lowered my level of activity which has weakened various muscles, and it is the muscle wastage that is causing the pain. Quite why it takes a Consultant to work that one out, is another question. He was very, very nice, and very young. The rest of the treatment should be available on the NHS. Now that I know the cause, I can try and get back :biggrin: to normal. I am sure that most people would have thought that such serious pain was a signal of something seriously wrong.

Now where is the rest of that wine? :smile:
 

TheDoctor

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*passes bottle to Speichy and offers back rub*

Glad it's finally going forward and getting better.

And I haven't forgotten about the basket for your bike. I'll let you know when I'm heading that way, and we can maybe meet up for tea and scones.
 

Speicher

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I asked him how long it would take to return to normal (or what I would call normal) and he said it would take months rather than weeks. :biggrin:
He said to start off with walking and swimming etc. I am glad that it is nothing serious, but why does it take so long to get this diagnosis when all the time my health has been deteriorating. :biggrin:

I am sure that consuming tea and scones will have an excellent therapeutic benefit. :smile:
 

TheDoctor

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Speicher said:
I asked him how long it would take to return to normal (or what I would call normal) and he said it would take months rather than weeks. :biggrin:
He said to start off with walking and swimming etc. I am glad that it is nothing serious, but why does it take so long to get this diagnosis when all the time my health has been deteriorating. :biggrin:

I am sure that consuming tea and scones will have an excellent therapeutic benefit. :smile:

I'm sure it will;). I'll let you know as soon as I'm heading over that way, and we can arrange something at a suitable sconery.:smile:

Didn't you say you'd been doing some swimming? Sounds like you had the right idea a while before the medics got round to telling you so!
 

tdr1nka

Taking the biscuit
Speicher said:
I am sure that consuming tea and scones will have an excellent therapeutic benefit. :biggrin:

Glad to hear something positive! So basically you need to get orf yer a*se a bit more?:biggrin:

No, seriously I had no NHS phisio for my knee and had I been seen in the first few weeks of recovery I'd have been back to 'normal' a month sooner. I went private and got your exact same diagnosis of muscle wastage pain over that of injury pain, funnily enough, and I know our cases are different, the one thing I had been avoiding, for fear of pain and further damage, was the exact same thing I needed to get back in shape, cycling!

Doctor! You have my a*se? No wonder I've not sat down all day!!
Sorry Doc' you seem to spill things when I make my retorts?
Have you got the bunting out to greet my offical train as it graces you with it's presence for all of 12 seconds, while you are on the phone no doubt?

Look at me I'm jibbering, just spent 1hr composing a reply on the Safe Speed thread and I've rendered myself quite verbose!

More TEA!!!!

Tx
 

TheDoctor

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tdr1nka said:
Glad to hear something positive! So basically you need to get orf yer a*se a bit more?:biggrin:

No, seriously I had no NHS phisio for my knee and had I been seen in the first few weeks of recovery I'd have been back to 'normal' a month sooner. I went private and got your exact same diagnosis of muscle wastage pain over that of injury pain, funnily enough, and I know our cases are different, the one thing I had been avoiding, for fear of pain and further damage, was the exact same thing I needed to get back in shape, cycling!

Doctor! You have my a*se? No wonder I've not sat down all day!!
Sorry Doc' you seem to spill things when I make my retorts?
Have you got the bunting out to greet my offical train as it graces you with it's presence for all of 12 seconds, while you are on the phone no doubt?

Look at me I'm jibbering, just spent 1hr composing a reply on the Safe Speed thread and I've rendered myself quite verbose!

More TEA!!!!

Tx

That's because :
they're witty and / or unexpected
I am usually drinking something when looking at this thread.

Bunting organised for 1220 about 1200 yards north of Hatfield station, on the left hand side.

Book not located as yet.

And have some tea:biggrin:. Preferably not Earl Grey with milk.
 

tdr1nka

Taking the biscuit
I poo poo Earl Grey. Yuk. Potpurri air freshener tea? No thanks. Ta.
Bergamot is apparently carsenogenic, I may be thoroughly misguided in this thinking but as far as I am concerned Earl Grey is to tea what Stella Tortoise is to to European Largers such as Chamey etc..

A friend sent me a link for a job she thought I might like today, as a jovial 'Tea' Blogger for the web site of an online specialist tea company.

250 words a month, 200 sovs, I sent a preliminary email in my usual style but as I have no published or completed work I doubt I stand much chance.
Still a man can put the kettle on and dream of his dream job can't he?

Tx
 

Speicher

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Yes, please put the kettle on, and make some tea. thank you.
Now that I know I do not have some major complication, I can concentrate on regaining some of my fitness. There is a blood test that I require to rule out some "myalgic" syndrome whatsit, but that and the scan should confirm the diagnosis. It makes me wonder how many people get worse while waiting for treatment, and then take so much longer to get better, a downward spiral, methinks. :biggrin:
 

tdr1nka

Taking the biscuit
Sorry, bit late with the tea, just been trying to cheer Bonj up, bless 'im.

Myalga is most often a temporary condition but is diagnosable and so treatable.

You are sooo right about the downward spiral and the waiting for treatment, even just getting to see a consultant in the first place.

I feel this is certainly why so many people are on incapacity benefits long term. After nearly two years of waiting for treatment after a breakdown (nervous exhaustion) my previous life was long gone and my life has been supported by the tax payer ever since, something I am not exactly proud of TBH.
Had I had access to the help I needed in the first place I believe I would most definately not be in the position I am now.
The books are balanced all wrong, simply more money and less restructuring in the NHS would eventually lead to so much less being forked out in benefits, incapacity, housing and council tax included.

Sorry about the moan there.
Time for my blue pill.:thumbsup:
One more cuppa and then bed I think.

T x
 

TheDoctor

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Mornings!
I'll get the kettle on.

@tdr1nka,
Hope the blogging thing comes off.
There may be a issue with bunting, brass bands , cheerleaders, parade of baby elephants at Hatfield, but I'll try to wave as the train goes by. This will of course involve me waving at random trains over a 10 minute interval, but I've done madder things in the past!
 

wafflycat

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tdr1nka said:
No, seriously I had no NHS phisio for my knee and had I been seen in the first few weeks of recovery I'd have been back to 'normal' a month sooner. I went private and got your exact same diagnosis of muscle wastage pain over that of injury pain, funnily enough, and I know our cases are different, the one thing I had been avoiding, for fear of pain and further damage, was the exact same thing I needed to get back in shape, cycling!

Doctor! You have my a*se? No wonder I've not sat down all day!!
Sorry Doc' you seem to spill things when I make my retorts?
Have you got the bunting out to greet my offical train as it graces you with it's presence for all of 12 seconds, while you are on the phone no doubt?

Look at me I'm jibbering, just spent 1hr composing a reply on the Safe Speed thread and I've rendered myself quite verbose!

More TEA!!!!

Tx

First - glad Speicher's got some positive news and her problem can be worked on and sorted, even if not overnight.

Secondly - the delay thing. When my offspring had his *serious* crash last year, as soon as he came out of horse spittal I had him off to the local physio privately. Said physio is a cyclist herself and she knows her stuff, having treated many a now seriously good cyclist over the years. She highlighted various aspects of the type of injuries my offspring had that may have complications which are not often picked up on by the bone men, but if said complications occur, they need to be dealt with sooner rather than later. Luckily she could rule out the stuff that is sometimes overlooked. If she had of picked up on any of them, she'd have done us a letter to take to the horse spittal to alert the medics.

She also checked over the offspring *through sport eyes* and gave him loads of exercises to do to aid recovery and reduce loss of fitness. As it happened, when he went back to the horse spittal for checking over, the docs were amazed at the range of movement he had, as if he had done what they said, which was basically: not move, keep perfectly still at all times and do not exercise, he'd have had a much reduced range of movement and would have been much further back in his recovery.
 

Arch

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Morning all! Anyone buried alive in the 'quake? Wonder if we should arrange to fly in supplies of good strong British tea to the survivors. I am already knitting socks for the aid package...

Glad to hear you've got somewhere Speicher. I'm sure just knowing where you stand will bring about improvement, mentally at least, and I think mental attitude is a huge part of physical well being...

Doc, surely you could get some bunting and stuff rigged up, like at the end of the Railway Children. Although I don't think they had a baby elephant. They had Bernard Cribbins, but that's not quite the same.

I must say, Earl Grey is not my favourite, I'll drink it but I like good ole ornery tea (although I do have Fair Trade), or if I'm out and feeling posh, Darjeeling. But either whay, it's not really tea unless it has milk iin it. Tea with lemon is a Health Drink, alright, but not really Tea....
 

TheDoctor

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Hi Waffles,
I don't understand why this varies so much.:thumbsup:
When I had the shoulder dislocation unpleasantness about 18 months back, the horse spittal had a physiotherapy department, who got me in each week, measuring movement, giving me exercises to do and all that. Took about a month of physio and now it's as good as a good thing that's been on its best behavior.
 

TheDoctor

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Arch said:
Morning all! Anyone buried alive in the 'quake? Wonder if we should arrange to fly in supplies of good strong British tea to the survivors. I am already knitting socks for the aid package...

Glad to hear you've got somewhere Speicher. I'm sure just knowing where you stand will bring about improvement, mentally at least, and I think mental attitude is a huge part of physical well being...

Doc, surely you could get some bunting and stuff rigged up, like at the end of the Railway Children. Although I don't think they had a baby elephant. They had Bernard Cribbins, but that's not quite the same.

I must say, Earl Grey is not my favourite, I'll drink it but I like good ole ornery tea (although I do have Fair Trade), or if I'm out and feeling posh, Darjeeling. But either whay, it's not really tea unless it has milk iin it. Tea with lemon is a Health Drink, alright, but not really Tea....

Are you dissing the noble Earl?
That's fighting talk if ever I heard it.
I demand satisfaction!
*hits Arch (very gently and carefully) with cycling gloves*
My second will contact you. Choice of weapons, time and place is yours, as I believe is traditional in these matters.

What's this about an earthquake? If the Earth moved it was nothing to do with me!:thumbsup:
*I know, I know. Someone had to.*
 
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